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@chaney3 saidThose were my words. Whose words did you think they were?
You have not adequately stated what YOU believe the controversy is.
Don't keep re-posting. Explain in YOUR words what you're trying to say.
@chaney3 saidThose were my words. Whose words did you think they were?
You have not adequately stated what YOU believe the controversy is.
Don't keep re-posting. Explain in YOUR words what you're trying to say.
@thinkofone saidEverything about your post screams.....screams.....that Jesus wants you to believe in God.
Those were my words. Whose words did you think they were?
@chaney3 saidLet's see.
Everything about your post screams.....screams.....that Jesus wants you to believe in God.
That IS the controversy.
Which you will ignore.
And it IS on-topic.
The term "believe in Jesus" seems to bring controversy with it, and means different things to people.
When Jesus was preaching His gospel He used the terms "believe Him" and "believe in Him" essentially in three different ways:
1) Believe that He has the authority to speak the word of God
2) Believe that His words are the word of God
3) Believe His words in and of themselves.
Jesus did NOT use them to mean to believe in the "redemptive work on the cross for salvation" or what have you. Although Jesus never says it, many Christians think that that's how Jesus used it. Such is the power of self-delusion.
@thinkofone saidWhy don't you just clearly say what the hell your point is???
Let's see.
You wrote this:The term "believe in Jesus" seems to bring controversy with it, and means different things to people.
I responded in part with this:
[quote]When Jesus was preaching His gospel He used the terms "believe Him" and "believe in Him" essentially in three different ways:
1) Believe that He has the authority to speak the wor ...[text shortened]... "believe in Him" and compare them with what I wrote. If you find any discrepancies, post them here.
@thinkofone said#2. Do you believe that Jesus' words are the word of God?
Let's see.
You wrote this:The term "believe in Jesus" seems to bring controversy with it, and means different things to people.
I responded in part with this:
[quote]When Jesus was preaching His gospel He used the terms "believe Him" and "believe in Him" essentially in three different ways:
1) Believe that He has the authority to speak the wor ...[text shortened]... "believe in Him" and compare them with what I wrote. If you find any discrepancies, post them here.
@chaney3 saidWhat part(s) didn't you understand?
Why don't you just clearly say what the hell your point is???
Lose the 007 spy mystery...okay???
@chaney3 saidCan you answer this?
#2. Do you believe that Jesus' words are the word of God?
@chaney3 saidLike I said, "Evidently you're not interested in understanding the 'controversy'. My mistake."
Can you answer this?
@thinkofone saidYou just don't like to talk about God, even when Jesus does in the verses you provided.
Like I said, "Evidently you're not interested in understanding the 'controversy'. My mistake."
@chaney3 saidIn the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry, He repeatedly emphasizes the importance of His word.
You just don't like to talk about God, even when Jesus does in the verses you provided.
Your insistence to do this is telling.
So, you love to quote Jesus, but ignore God. You cannot do both.
@chaney3 saidget a grip dude
Everything about your post screams.....screams.....that Jesus wants you to believe in God.
That IS the controversy.
Which you will ignore.
And it IS on-topic.
@karoly-aczel saidFollow the thread and discussion, or shut your face.
get a grip dude
@chaney3 saidI have followed it.
Follow the thread and discussion, or shut your face.
@kellyjay saidwake up knucklehead!!
Those who deny Him will be denied by Him too, no matter what other things
they think they have going for them.