-Removed-I accept the absolute authority and sovereignty of God too, which pretty
much means I don't worry about some of the little details we seem to fight
over here. Such as predestination, if God gives us choice than we have a
choice, does that mean we lose it if God can see the beginning and the end
at the same time? If there is an issue there, I am willing to let God work
it out it is His problem not mine.
With respect to the Trinity I believe it, but it too is something I don't really
care to debate. Reason being, God is God no matter what I think about Him
He will be what He is if I understand Him or not.
The Ark I believe in, take that for what its worth.
Kelly
-Removed-"God was very explicit with the dimensions of the ark..." Of course He was; if you were Omniscient God you'd be precise too. His plan is perfect. "predestination": He knew from eternity past who would believe in Christ for their eternal salvation and who wouldn't; those God foreknew He predestined to share the security and happiness of personal relationship with Him.
-Removed-Well, Christians may quibble the use of the word "genocide" ~ so replace it with mass murder or indiscriminate mass executions, if you want ~ but don't the calculated dimensions of the ark, supposedly determined by God [in the folk story you're talking about], strongly suggest that the killing of all humans, aside from Noah's family, was a calculated genocide with a calculated purpose?
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Originally posted by FMFGod and genocide, I think is a worthless conversation since everyone's
Well, Christians may quibble the use of the word "genocide" ~ so replace it with mass murder or indiscriminate mass executions, if you want ~ but don't the calculated dimensions of the ark, supposedly determined by God [in the folk story you're talking about], strongly suggest that the killing of all humans, aside from Noah's family, was a calculated genocide with a calculated purpose?
death and I do mean everyone's death comes down to God. If God does it
one at a time, or in mass it is still God who sets up universe and
all the laws within it.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayWere the people deliberately killed by God using the flood or not?
God and genocide, I think is a worthless conversation since everyone's
death and I do mean everyone's death comes down to God. If God does it
one at a time, or in mass it is still God who sets up universe and
all the laws within it.
Kelly
Can you not equally claim "everyone's death [came] down to God" in Rwanda [for example] and therefore it is a "worthless conversation" to talk of "genocide"?
-Removed-Sure. But did that fact have your God figure ~ as portrayed in the mythology ~ stumped? The channel of communication that He used resulted in one man and his family surviving and the rest of humanity being killed/murdered? It sounds like the work of an Iron Age storyteller. It does not strike me as being a case of 'divinity in action' at all ~ more like the exploits of a man-made "baddie" character, except his followers think he's the opposite of a "baddie'.