Premise: Objective morals do not exist

Premise: Objective morals do not exist

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If person A decides that action X is good whereas person B decides that action X is evil, are they both right or is one of them wrong?
Are you a child?

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Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Are you a child?
Do you have difficulty answering the question?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you have difficulty answering the question?
no
quite clearly because I answered it.

do you have difficulty comprehending answers?

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Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Are you a child?
Is this your answer?

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Originally posted by @wolfgang59
If this is the case then a universal good and bad do not exist
and any gods which may or may not exist cannot be viewed
as "good" in any universal way. (Individuals may agree with
the god's morals but it would not necessarily be universal agreement)

We would also like to know where and how this "god" obtained his
personal set of morals.
Sure, I tell you and everyone will know.

We all know you can't keep any secrets. 😠

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Is this your answer?
No. It was my answer.

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Originally posted by @wolfgang59
No. It was my answer.
If two people contradict each other on a moral issue, are they both right or is one of them wrong? Or is there another option?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If two people contradict each other on a moral issue, are they both right or is one of them wrong? Or is there another option?
Is the logical negation of “moral” “immoral,” or is it “not-moral.”

Is the logical negation of:

“it is morally obligatory to do X”,

“it is morally obligatory not to do X”

or is it

“it is not morally obligatory to do X”?

You see, if we are going to apply propositional logic to moral claims, there is some groundwork needed.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If two people contradict each other on a moral issue, are they both right or is one of them wrong? Or is there another option?
You really are a tedious little man aren't you?
The premise of this thread is
Objective morals do not exist

So why cannot you work out the answer to your own question?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If two people contradict each other on a moral issue, are they both right or is one of them wrong? Or is there another option?
The answer is up to you.

Expect that you should justify yourself.

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Originally posted by @wolfgang59
You really are a tedious little man aren't you?
The premise of this thread is
[b]Objective morals do not exist


So why cannot you work out the answer to your own question?[/b]
Why are you afraid to give me a straight answer rather than beat about the bush?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Why are you afraid to give me a straight answer rather than beat about the bush?
It's not fear that stops people talking to you Becker.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Why are you afraid to give me a straight answer rather than beat about the bush?
One reason (among others) is that we (I, at least) do not want to give you misleading answers. But you ignore my attempts to delve deeper into the real issues you raise. Is that my fault? Or is genuine exploration of issues not your agenda? What IS your agenda? There’s nothing wrong with having one.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Why are you afraid to give me a straight answer rather than beat about the bush?
If you cannot deduce the answer from what I have previously
posted (and the thread title) then your comprehension is so
low that any short answer I give is almost certainly going to
confuse you. I do not have time to write a book for you and
second guess every moronic question you will ask arising
from my answers.

For that reason, I'm out.

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Originally posted by @js357
Is the logical negation of “moral” “immoral,” or is it “not-moral.”

Is the logical negation of:

“it is morally obligatory to do X”,

“it is morally obligatory not to do X”

or is it

“it is not morally obligatory to do X”?

You see, if we are going to apply propositional logic to moral claims, there is some groundwork needed.
As I see it an action can logically be moral, immoral or neither but it can't be both moral and immoral.