Premise: Objective morals do not exist

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
No he wasn't.
If you think "scripture" and "print" are synonyms you are seriously fckd up.

If you think the scriptures do not consist of ‘print’ you have a serious problem.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you think the scriptures do not consist of ‘print’ you have a serious problem.

A brain consists of atoms but atoms do not think.

Besides which do you think "the scriptures consist of print"?
If every written word disappeared would the scriptures no longer exist?
Come on ... say something sensible ...

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
A brain consists of atoms but atoms do not think.

Besides which do you think "the scriptures consist of print"?
If every written word disappeared would the scriptures no longer exist?
Come on ... say something sensible ...

If every written word disappeared, where would the scriptures exist?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If every written word disappeared, where would the scriptures exist?

Answer my questions before you ask.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
A brain consists of atoms but atoms do not think.

Besides which do you think "the scriptures consist of print"?
If every written word disappeared would the scriptures no longer exist?
Come on ... say something sensible ...

If the 'scriptures' are the sacred writings of Christianity contained in the Bible, then yes the scriptures consist of print. If it was was clearly written in the Bible that rape was good and somewhere else that rape was bad then yes the Bible would be ambivalent on the morality of rape. So if you provide me with a clear reference where the Bible explicitly says that rape is good I will agree with you.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If the 'scriptures' are the sacred writings of Christianity contained in the Bible, then yes the scriptures consist of print. If it was was clearly written in the Bible that rape was good and somewhere else that rape was bad then yes the Bible would be ambivalent on the morality of rape. So if you provide me with a clear reference where the Bible explicitly says that rape is good I will agree with you.

Please provide a clear reference where your scripture explicitly states that rape is bad.

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
Please provide a clear reference where your scripture explicitly states that rape is bad.

Deuteronomy 22:25-27

But if in the open country a man meets a young woman who is betrothed, and the man seizes her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. But you shall do nothing to the young woman; she has committed no offense punishable by death.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If the 'scriptures' are the sacred writings of Christianity contained in the Bible, then yes the scriptures consist of print. If it was was clearly written in the Bible that rape was good and somewhere else that rape was bad then yes the Bible would be ambivalent on the morality of rape. So if you provide me with a clear reference where the Bible explicitly says that rape is good I will agree with you.

wtf are you on about?!?! 🙄

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Deuteronomy 22:25-27

But if in the open country a man meets a young woman who is betrothed, and the man seizes her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. But you shall do nothing to the young woman; she has committed no offense punishable by death.

So Deuteronomy 22:25-27 says you shouldn't rape a woman who is engaged to a man? What about women who are not betrothed? What about married women? What about widows? Is Deuteronomy 22:25-27 still in force?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Deuteronomy 22:25-27

But if in the open country a man meets a young woman who is betrothed, and the man seizes her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. But you shall do nothing to the young woman; she has committed no offense punishable by death.

As FMF has pointed out, the specification of 'betrothed' obviously excludes women who are not in this state. So it is by no means an unambiguous condemnation of rape in any circumstances. As you are well aware.

Originally posted by @dj2beckerDeuteronomy 22:25-27 ...

A point for becker. Raping other men's fiancees is totally not cool. We will kill you!

Originally posted by @fmf
So Deuteronomy 22:25-27 says you shouldn't rape a woman who is engaged to a man? What about women who are not betrothed? What about married women? What about widows? Is Deuteronomy 22:25-27 still in force?

You seem to have a very limited understanding of scripture for someone who was a Christian for so many decades. Use a bit of common sense every now and then.

Originally posted by @apathist
A point for becker. Raping other men's fiancees is totally not cool. We will kill you!

So is killing a rapists always wrong under all circumstances in your opinion? Do you or don’t you believe in moral absolutes?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You seem to have a very limited understanding of scripture for someone who was a Christian for so many decades. Use a bit of common sense every now and then.

This is a dodge.

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
As FMF has pointed out, the specification of 'betrothed' obviously excludes women who are not in this state. So it is by no means an unambiguous condemnation of rape in any circumstances. As you are well aware.

It also doesn't mean that raping someone who is not betrothed is a good thing.