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    28 Nov '17 05:56
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Santa's morals are objective. He is the standard by which gifts are measured by.
    Dodge noted.
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    28 Nov '17 07:37
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Dodge noted.
    ditto
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    28 Nov '17 07:40
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    ditto
    If 'good' and 'evil' are merely terms that describe the actions that the majority like or dislike, why should the minority adhere to the personal preferences of the majority?
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    28 Nov '17 13:10
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Santa's morals are objective. He is the standard by which gifts are measured by.
    “He knows if you've been bad or good. So be good for goodness sake,”

    This is the crux of Santian ethics, and there is ambiguity in the motivation to be good. I will leave it to my more scholarly friends here to disentangle.
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    28 Nov '17 13:35
    Originally posted by @js357
    “He knows if you've been bad or good. So be good for goodness sake,”

    This is the crux of Santian ethics, and there is ambiguity in the motivation to be good. I will leave it to my more scholarly friends here to disentangle.
    For me "Santa" was more about the virtues of letter writing.
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    28 Nov '17 16:06
    Originally posted by @fmf
    For me "Santa" was more about the virtues of letter writing.
    Intercessionary postal service seems to be an orthodox practice within Santaism, in which Santian ethics is personified.

    Do you think writing a letter can overcome not being good, or are both required?
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    28 Nov '17 22:232 edits
    Originally posted by @js357
    Intercessionary postal service seems to be an orthodox practice within Santaism, in which Santian ethics is personified.

    Do you think writing a letter can overcome not being good, or are both required?
    I don't think being good is the key to it. Writing the letter demonstrates belief in Santa and THAT is the key; after all, children who don't believe in Santa don't get presents from Santa. It is thought - and asserted - that doing good will naturally follow belief, but bad children who believe in Santa inevitably get presents from him too. Santaism is about thinking stuff about Santa ~ and therefore getting presents ~ and not about how one lives one's life.
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    29 Nov '17 11:57
    The Trinity: Father Christmas, Santa, Rudolph.
    One but also 3.
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    30 Nov '17 18:37
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    If 'good' and 'evil' are merely terms that describe the actions that the majority like or dislike, why should the minority adhere to the personal preferences of the majority?
    It must be something in the water.
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    30 Nov '17 18:51
    Originally posted by @black-beetle
    It must be something in the water.
    Is that the best you can come up with? 😵
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    30 Nov '17 19:591 edit
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Is that the best you can come up with? 😵
    Yes.
    I am strongly convinced it must be something in the water available in Abu Dhabi.
    😵
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    02 Dec '17 09:38
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    If 'good' and 'evil' are merely terms that describe the actions that the majority like or dislike, why should the minority adhere to the personal preferences of the majority?
    What do you mean by "merely terms" ?

    These are the words we use.

    "Good" and "Evil" are clearly understood by the vast majority of us
    although we argue over the use of those words in certain situations.
    In every day living all societies have a very similar code of conduct
    and regard for "good" and "evil". It really isn't about majorities and
    minorities.
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    05 Dec '17 03:52
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    What do you mean by "merely terms" ?

    These are the words we use.

    "Good" and "Evil" are clearly understood by the vast majority of us
    although we argue over the use of those words in certain situations.
    In every day living all societies have a very similar code of conduct
    and regard for "good" and "evil". It really isn't about majorities and
    minorities.
    If the majority doesn’t decide what is good and evil who does?
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    05 Dec '17 17:22
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    If the majority doesn’t decide what is good and evil who does?
    When I use the words, I do.
    When I hear others using those words that is their decision.
    When I see the words written down I know it is the opinion of the writer.

    Why do you struggle with the obvious?
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    05 Dec '17 17:41
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    When I use the words, I do.
    When I hear others using those words that is their decision.
    When I see the words written down I know it is the opinion of the writer.

    Why do you struggle with the obvious?
    If person A decides that action X is good whereas person B decides that action X is evil, are they both right or is one of them wrong?
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