1. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." (Romans 1:22)

    Famous Quotes by Atheists & Scoffers:
    "Christianity is such a silly religion." -Gore Vidal

    "The Bible says: The damned think that the preaching of the cross of the Lord Jesus Christ is foolishness."
    1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."

    "The inspiration of the Bible depends upon the ignorance of the gentleman who reads it." -Robert Ingersoll

    "The Bible says: The unregenerate man thinks that the things of God, including His word, are foolishess. He can't even begin understand them with his old dead spirit." 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

    "...It would be more consistent that we call [the Bible] the work of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." -Thomas Paine

    "The Bible says: The wicked call evil good and good evil. All woe unto them if they don't get right with Jesus." Isaiah 5:20 "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

    "Christians are losers." -Ted Turner

    "The Bible says: The unregenerate man thinks Christians are crazy because they don't do the same wicked stuff he does and they don't hold the same wicked opinions he does." I Peter 4:3-4, "For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you."

    "If we would destroy the Christian religion, we must first of all destroy man's belief in the Bible." -Voltaire

    "The Bible says: The Bible will remain forever. The words of some sinner man will never negate what God has said." Matthew 24:35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words SHALL NOT pass away."


    "Conclusion of the Matter: If you are a scoffer or an atheist, you have NOT defeated the word of God with your big words and ideas, you have condemned yourself! Repent [change your mind] while you have hope or you will perish. When you die, it will be everlasting too late. The wrath of God is hanging over your head like a storm cloud. It's there when you lay down, when you wake up, when you are working, having lunch with friends, going on a trip--everywhere you go, that wrath goes with you (Psalm 7:11). John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Atheism/famous_quotes_by_atheists.htm

    Q. Today is Tuesday, April 15, 2014. On this day on Red Hot Pawn's Spirituality Forum,
    what decision have you made regarding your permanent address for eternity?

    A. ______________________________________________________________ ?
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    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." (Romans 1:22)

    Famous Quotes by Atheists & Scoffers:
    "Christianity is such a silly religion." -Gore Vidal

    "The Bible says: The damned think that the preaching of the cross of the Lord Jesus Christ is foolishness."
    1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them th ...[text shortened]... eternity?

    A. ______________________________________________________________ ?
    [/b]
    Q. Today is Tuesday, April 15, 2014. On this day on Red Hot Pawn's Spirituality Forum,
    what decision have you made regarding your permanent address for eternity?



    A. I deny the holy spirit 😏
  3. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    16 Apr '14 02:561 edit
    Originally posted by Agerg
    [b]Q. Today is Tuesday, April 15, 2014. On this day on Red Hot Pawn's Spirituality Forum,
    what decision have you made regarding your permanent address for eternity?



    A. I deny the holy spirit 😏[/b]
    "A. I deny the holy spirit" -Agerg... on the basis of empiricism or rationalism or something arbitrary and illogical?
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    Quotes About Jesus Christ:

    "I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him." –Napoleon

    "And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors." –Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

    "No one else holds or has held the place in the heart of the world which Jesus holds. Other gods have been as devoutly worshipped; no other man has been so devoutly loved." --John Knox

    "Even those who have renounced Christianity and attack it, in their inmost being still follow the Christian ideal, for hitherto neither their subtlety nor the ardour of their hearts has been able to create a higher ideal of man and of virtue than the ideal given by Christ of old." --Fyodor Dostoyevsky

    "A man who was completely innocent, offered himself as a sacrifice for the good of others, including his enemies, and became the ransom of the world. It was a perfect act." --Mahatma Gandhi

    "Jesus of Nazareth, without money and arms, conquered more millions than Alexander the Great, Caesar, Mohammed, and Napoleon; without science and learning, he shed more light on things human and divine than all philosophers and scholars combined; without the eloquence of school, he spoke such words of life as were never spoken before or since, and produced effects which lie beyond the reach of orator or poet; without writing a single line, he set more pens in motion, and furnished themes for more sermons, orations, discussions, learned volumes, works of art, and songs of praise than the whole army of great men of ancient and modern times." –Philip Schaff

    "I am an historian, I am not a believer, but I must confess as a historian that this penniless preacher from Nazareth is irrevocably the very center of history. Jesus Christ is easily the most dominant figure in all history." --H.G. Wells

    "As the centuries pass, the evidence is accumulating that, measured by His effect on history, Jesus is the most influential life ever lived on this planet." -Historian Kenneth Scott Latourette

    "Here is a man who was born in an obscure village, the Child of a peasant woman. He worked in a carpenter shop until He was thirty, and then for three years He was an itinerant preacher. He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never owned a home. He never had a family. He never went to college. He never put His foot inside a big city. He never traveled two hundred miles from the place where He was born. He never did one of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but Himself. He had nothing to do with this world except the naked power of His Divine manhood. While still a young man, the tide of popular opinion turned against Him. He was turned over to His enemies. He went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed to a Cross between two thieves. His executioners gambled for the only piece of property He had on earth while He was dying—and that was His coat. When He was dead He was taken down and laid in a borrowed grave through the pity of a friend. Such was His human life—He rises from the dead. Nineteen wide centuries have come and gone and today He is the Centerpiece of the human race and the Leader of the column of progress. I am within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, and all the navies that ever were built, and all the parliaments that ever sat, and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as has that One Solitary Life." -James C. Hefley

    "Socrates taught for 40 years, Plato for 50, Aristotle for 40, and Jesus for only 3. Yet the influence of Christ's 3-year ministry infinitely transcends the impact left by the combined 130 years of teaching from these men who were among the greatest philosophers of all antiquity." –Unknown

    "I have read in Plato and Cicero sayings that are very wise and very beautiful; but I never read in either of them: "Come unto me all ye that labour and are heavy laden." -Augustine (1 of 2)

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Miscellaneous/quotes-jesus_christ.htm
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    16 Apr '14 05:08
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    "Socrates taught for 40 years, Plato for 50, Aristotle for 40, and Jesus for only 3. Yet the influence of Christ's 3-year ministry infinitely transcends the impact left by the combined 130 years of teaching from these men who were among the greatest philosophers of all antiquity." –Unknown

    A pity. But nothing to do with any Jesus.

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    16 Apr '14 05:23
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    "Socrates taught for 40 years, Plato for 50, Aristotle for 40, and Jesus for only 3. Yet the influence of Christ's 3-year ministry infinitely transcends the impact left by the combined 130 years of teaching from these men who were among the greatest philosophers of all antiquity." –Unknown
    Lets not forget Stalin and Hitler.

    The fact is, if you do a philosophy course at University, you are likely to read works by Plato and Aristotle, but will not be reading anything by Jesus.
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    16 Apr '14 06:17
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    "A. I deny the holy spirit" -Agerg... on the basis of empiricism or rationalism or something arbitrary and illogical?
    Suspicion: an Orwellian hijacking of vocabulary may be afoot here. 🙂
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    16 Apr '14 07:33
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Quotes About Jesus Christ:

    [i]"I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love ...[text shortened]... en." -Augustine (1 of 2)

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Miscellaneous/quotes-jesus_christ.htm[/b]
    Quotes About Jesus Christ:

    "Buddha never claimed to be God. Moses never claimed to be Jehovah. Mohammed never claimed to be Allah. Yet Jesus Christ claimed to be the true and living God. Buddha simply said, "I am a teacher in search of the truth." Jesus said, "I am the Truth." Confucius said, "I never claimed to be holy." Jesus said, "Who convicts me of sin?" Mohammed said, "Unless God throws his cloak of mercy over me, I have no hope." Jesus said, "Unless you believe in me, you will die in your sins." -Unknown

    "Fundamentally, our Lord's message was Himself. He did not come merely to preach a Gospel; He himself is that Gospel. He did not come merely to give bread; He said, "I am the bread." He did not come merely to shed light; He said, "I am the light." He did not come merely to show the door; He said, "I am the door." He did not come merely to name a shepherd; He said, "I am the shepherd." He did not come merely to point the way; He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life." --J. Sidlow Baxter

    "Jesus is the God whom we can approach without pride and before whom we can humble ourselves without despair." –Blaise Pascal

    "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene... No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life." --Albert Einstein

    "An unsurpassed master of the art of laying bare the inmost core of spiritual truth." -Geza Vermes

    "There is something so pure and frank and noble about Him that to doubt His sincerity would be like doubting the brightness of the sun." -Charles Edward Jefferson

    "Jesus Christ is to me the outstanding personality of all time, all history, both as Son of God and as Son of Man. Everything he ever said or did has value for us today and that is something you can say of no other man, dead or alive. There is no easy middle ground to stroll upon. You either accept Jesus or reject him." -Sholem Asch

    "Jesus is God spelling Himself out in language that men can understand." -S.D. Gordon

    "Only Christ could have conceived Christ." -Joseph Parker

    "In Jesus, God wills to be true God not only in the height but also in the depth – in the depth of human creatureliness, sinfulness and mortality." -Karl Barth

    "It was this same Jesus, the Christ who, among many other remarkable things, said and repeated something which, proceeding from any other being would have condemned him at once as either a bloated egotist or a dangerously unbalanced person...when He said He himself would rise again from the dead, the third day after He was crucified, He said something that only a fool would dare say, if he expected longer the devotion of any disciples—unless He was sure He was going to rise. No founder of any world religion known to men ever dared say a thing like that!" --Wilbur Smith

    "I accept the resurrection of Easter Sunday not as an invention of the community of disciples, but as a historical event. If the resurrection of Jesus from the dead on that Easter Sunday were a public event which had been made known...not only to the 530 Jewish witnesses but to the entire population, all Jews would have become followers of Jesus." -Pinchas Lapide, Orthodox Jewish scholar, Germany, Born 1922. (2a/2b to follow)

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Miscellaneous/quotes-jesus_christ.htm
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    Q. Today is Tuesday, April 15, 2014. On this day on Red Hot Pawn's Spirituality Forum,
    what decision have you made regarding your permanent address for eternity?

    A.
    wolfgang59______________________________________________________?
    twhitehead______________________________________________________?
    FMF____________________________________________________________?
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    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Today is Tuesday, April 15, 2014. On this day on Red Hot Pawn's Spirituality Forum, what decision have you made regarding your permanent address for eternity?
    What "permanent address for eternity"? Sounds like a fridge magnet. If you are talking about your own personal Christian superstition, and if you have read and understood even only a sample of my posts over the last however many years it's been, why on earth would you be addressing this question to me, yet again? 🙂
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    16 Apr '14 08:55
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]Q. Today is Tuesday, April 15, 2014. On this day on Red Hot Pawn's Spirituality Forum,
    what decision have you made regarding your permanent address for eternity?

    A.
    wolfgang59______________________________________________________?
    twhitehead______________________________________________________?
    FMF____________________________________________________________?
    [/b]
    I do not make decisions on choices not available to me, or choices that simply do not exist (as in this case).
    If you really care about my 'permanent address' as you claim then you need to learn how to listen to other people. Only when you listen, will you also get people to listen to you.
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    Q. Today is Tuesday, April 15, 2014. On this day on Red Hot Pawn's Spirituality Forum,
    what decision have you made regarding your permanent address for eternity?

    A. The same decision you have made regarding an infinite number of alternative mythical choices.

    --- Penguin.
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    16 Apr '14 11:32
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I do not make decisions on choices not available to me, or choices that simply do not exist (as in this case).
    If you really care about my 'permanent address' as you claim then you need to learn how to listen to other people. Only when you listen, will you also get people to listen to you.
    Okay. Please help me understand how you view the aftermath scenario of your physical death. I'm listening...
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    Originally posted by Penguin
    Q. Today is Tuesday, April 15, 2014. On this day on Red Hot Pawn's Spirituality Forum,
    what decision have you made regarding your permanent address for eternity?

    A. The same decision you have made regarding an infinite number of alternative mythical choices.

    --- Penguin.
    Thank you, --- Penguin.
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    16 Apr '14 11:381 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    A pity. But nothing to do with any Jesus.

    Thanks to;
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    Back to "Jesus is swell. Paul messed it all up."

    Why in the world do you rank Paul with Constantine or the empires?

    And the oldest NT documentation we have telling us about Jesus in the New Testament are the epistles of Paul. Their writing pre-dates the Gospels.

    The women keep silent in the churches thing?
    What then puts Paul on your "distorted Jesus" hit list?
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