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Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]"We see what we see, nothing more. The process is called magnification. Look it up."

the process of a nebula is magnification????? we use magnification to look at a nebula. i want to know what you think is happening in a nebula?


what are we seeing when we look at a nebula? what is a nebula rj?[/b]
Look it up with Google. I can't give you any better hypothesis than what you can find there. After all isn't it just speculation?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Look it up with Google. I can't give you any better hypothesis than what you can find there. After all isn't it just speculation?

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NO.

How on earth is it "just speculation"?

We KNOW what happens in nebulas. If you want to stick your head in the sand and call it speculation, well... remember, even if you put lipstick on a pig, it's still just a pig. You can't change facts by your own ignorance.


Originally posted by KellyJay
Can you define nothing for me?
Kelly
"Nothing" is what the TV show 'Seinfeld' was about. 🙂

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Originally posted by twhitehead
My apologies. I normally skip over most of your posts so I did miss that one.
Zing!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Look it up with Google. I can't give you any better hypothesis than what you can find there. After all isn't it just speculation?

The Instructor
this is confusing, you are confident enough to say planets and suns cannot form by the theories we can see actually happen. yet you are not confident enough to explain why these events cannot happen.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
NO.

How on earth is it "just speculation"?

We KNOW what happens in nebulas. If you want to stick your head in the sand and call it speculation, well... remember, even if you put lipstick on a pig, it's still just a pig. You can't change facts by your own ignorance.
The Nebular Hypothesis



HYPOTHESIS

1. a provisional theory set forth to explain some class of phenomena, either accepted as a guide to future investigation (working hypothesis) or assumed for the sake of argument and testing.

2. a proposition assumed as a premise in an argument.

3. the antecedent of a conditional proposition.

4. a mere assumption or guess.

Synonyms:

Guess, speculation, conjecture, possibility, proposal, assumption, opinion

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypothesis

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
this is confusing, you are confident enough to say planets and suns cannot form by the theories we can see actually happen. yet you are not confident enough to explain why these events cannot happen.
The Nebular Hypothesis - A False Paradigm Misleading Scientists

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AGUSM.P21D..18M

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Stars and galaxies were formed before man was created, so nobody has ever observed their formation. All observations are of stars and galaxies as they appear today.

The second law of thermodynamics would indicate that stars will also die out in time due to loss of energy.

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All observations of stars and galaxies as they appear today? You should take a study of how much astronomy has advanced in the past 100 years. Telescopes 8 or more METERS in diameter can see galaxies almost to the 'edge' of the known universe, over 13 billion light years away. In all that wondrous universe of stars and galaxies are billions examples of stars and galaxies in every stage of development. If we see a star we know is very young we can see vast dust clouds around it and examples of star formation like that in every stage.

Your statement that nobody observed their formation is just another example of your blindness of mind. You refuse to see the light right in front of your very eyes, instead calling it darkness.

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/424442/proof-that-stars-form-when-clouds-collide/

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Originally posted by sonhouse
All observations of stars and galaxies as they appear today? You should take a study of how much astronomy has advanced in the past 100 years. Telescopes 8 or more METERS in diameter can see galaxies almost to the 'edge' of the known universe, over 13 billion light years away. In all that wondrous universe of stars and galaxies are billions examples of star ...[text shortened]... kness.

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/424442/proof-that-stars-form-when-clouds-collide/
I am not fooled by all this nonsense. Tell it to the stupid. Maybe they will be gullible enough to believe it. It does not matter how strong the telescopes are, there is still no seeing into the past or future with magnification.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not fooled by all this nonsense. Tell it to the stupid. Maybe they will be gullible enough to believe it. It does not matter how strong the telescopes are, there is still no seeing into the past or future with magnification.

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I'm not sure anyone can be this stupid. You surely are trolling.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
I'm not sure anyone can be this stupid. You surely are trolling.
You are.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not fooled by all this nonsense. Tell it to the stupid. Maybe they will be gullible enough to believe it. It does not matter how strong the telescopes are, there is still no seeing into the past or future with magnification.

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c'mon rj, purely for the comedy value, will you enlighten us and explain what is happening in a nebula?

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
c'mon rj, purely for the comedy value, will you enlighten us and explain what is happening in a nebula?
Beg sunhouse to enlighten you and provide the comedy value, for I am not interested in this nonsense.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Beg sunhouse to enlighten you and provide the comedy value, for I am not interested in this nonsense.

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what nonsense? im only asking you what you think is happening in a nebula. do you even accept that there are such things as nebulas?


Originally posted by stellspalfie
what nonsense? im only asking you what you think is happening in a nebula. do you even accept that there are such things as nebulas?
I could only speculate. Perhaps it is some type of artwork by God.



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