Originally posted by stellspalfieLook it up with Google. I can't give you any better hypothesis than what you can find there. After all isn't it just speculation?
[b]"We see what we see, nothing more. The process is called magnification. Look it up."
the process of a nebula is magnification????? we use magnification to look at a nebula. i want to know what you think is happening in a nebula?
what are we seeing when we look at a nebula? what is a nebula rj?[/b]
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Originally posted by RJHindsNO.
Look it up with Google. I can't give you any better hypothesis than what you can find there. After all isn't it just speculation?
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How on earth is it "just speculation"?
We KNOW what happens in nebulas. If you want to stick your head in the sand and call it speculation, well... remember, even if you put lipstick on a pig, it's still just a pig. You can't change facts by your own ignorance.
Originally posted by RJHindsthis is confusing, you are confident enough to say planets and suns cannot form by the theories we can see actually happen. yet you are not confident enough to explain why these events cannot happen.
Look it up with Google. I can't give you any better hypothesis than what you can find there. After all isn't it just speculation?
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Originally posted by SuzianneThe Nebular Hypothesis
NO.
How on earth is it "just speculation"?
We KNOW what happens in nebulas. If you want to stick your head in the sand and call it speculation, well... remember, even if you put lipstick on a pig, it's still just a pig. You can't change facts by your own ignorance.
HYPOTHESIS
1. a provisional theory set forth to explain some class of phenomena, either accepted as a guide to future investigation (working hypothesis) or assumed for the sake of argument and testing.
2. a proposition assumed as a premise in an argument.
3. the antecedent of a conditional proposition.
4. a mere assumption or guess.
Synonyms:
Guess, speculation, conjecture, possibility, proposal, assumption, opinion
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypothesis
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Originally posted by stellspalfieThe Nebular Hypothesis - A False Paradigm Misleading Scientists
this is confusing, you are confident enough to say planets and suns cannot form by the theories we can see actually happen. yet you are not confident enough to explain why these events cannot happen.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AGUSM.P21D..18M
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Originally posted by RJHindsAll observations of stars and galaxies as they appear today? You should take a study of how much astronomy has advanced in the past 100 years. Telescopes 8 or more METERS in diameter can see galaxies almost to the 'edge' of the known universe, over 13 billion light years away. In all that wondrous universe of stars and galaxies are billions examples of stars and galaxies in every stage of development. If we see a star we know is very young we can see vast dust clouds around it and examples of star formation like that in every stage.
Stars and galaxies were formed before man was created, so nobody has ever observed their formation. All observations are of stars and galaxies as they appear today.
The second law of thermodynamics would indicate that stars will also die out in time due to loss of energy.
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Your statement that nobody observed their formation is just another example of your blindness of mind. You refuse to see the light right in front of your very eyes, instead calling it darkness.
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/424442/proof-that-stars-form-when-clouds-collide/
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Originally posted by sonhouseI am not fooled by all this nonsense. Tell it to the stupid. Maybe they will be gullible enough to believe it. It does not matter how strong the telescopes are, there is still no seeing into the past or future with magnification.
All observations of stars and galaxies as they appear today? You should take a study of how much astronomy has advanced in the past 100 years. Telescopes 8 or more METERS in diameter can see galaxies almost to the 'edge' of the known universe, over 13 billion light years away. In all that wondrous universe of stars and galaxies are billions examples of star ...[text shortened]... kness.
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/424442/proof-that-stars-form-when-clouds-collide/
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Originally posted by RJHindsI'm not sure anyone can be this stupid. You surely are trolling.
I am not fooled by all this nonsense. Tell it to the stupid. Maybe they will be gullible enough to believe it. It does not matter how strong the telescopes are, there is still no seeing into the past or future with magnification.
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Originally posted by RJHindsc'mon rj, purely for the comedy value, will you enlighten us and explain what is happening in a nebula?
I am not fooled by all this nonsense. Tell it to the stupid. Maybe they will be gullible enough to believe it. It does not matter how strong the telescopes are, there is still no seeing into the past or future with magnification.
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