Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Perhaps you have a point JS357 and when science attempts to enter into realms that's its unfit for these types of assertions as contained in the cited text are an almost inevitable consequence.
Upon proofing this before sending, I realize that it might be taken as somewhat satirical. It is not meant that way.
OK so I think there is evidence that "Forced copulation has been observed in ducks, lizards, monkeys, fruit flies, crickets, orangutans, chimpanzees, and countless other species."
This quote is from a link that disputes that the word "rape" applies, because, as it says, "The central problem is that the legal definitions of rape include a lack of consent on the part of the victim, and we simply cannot know the extent to which dolphins or other animals are able to give consent."
http://justingregg.com/the-dolphin-rape-myth/
And, I add, we have not applied the concept of statutory rape to the social life of these animals. But it is possible that some rudimentary "law enforcement" exists around the incidence of forced copulation among some of these animals. IOW it might be punished or violently prevented by, say, an alpha male in a troop of monkeys.
So a question: is forced copulation natural, either in humans or otherwise?
One way I agree with you is that we (and some animals) are social creatures who have superimposed rules of "normal" behavior ("what is the norm" ) upon the "natural" aspects of our behavior, via laws and social reactions. To one degree or another, human societies regard rape to be aberrant and anti-social and make it illegal. So in some meanings of the word, rape is a violation of our nature as
social animals, and the perpetrator is usually aware that they are violating a social norm (and law). But is forced copulation the same? That takes more thought, since it implicates all those animals named above, in the question of whether it is "natural" or not.