Originally posted by kastso if a parent is so idiotic that he puts his child at risk, god should come down and save the small child. day saved, the child gets to live another day because you say it was not his fault.
simply because the arguments aren't sticking doesn't mean I am not reading your posts carefully. I am reading them in their entirety. The trouble is, you are running all over the place trying to defend god's existence.
For instance, you ask that if I have a child, would I ask that the government look after that child - no I would not ask the government to ...[text shortened]... .all nesses, haha. Interesting read, for sure...
-kast
if i buy an uzi and go into a mall and start firing, should god come in and save everyone, because it was really not their fault and everybody should have equal opportunity at life? should god stop wars? what fault do the invaded people have? they should get an equal opportunity at life.
yes, life is not fair. is god evil because of it? i don't think so. he set up the game of life, there are rules, you play or you don't. including the fact that small children depend on other humans to survive. if god made life all fair and warm and fuzzy, what would be the point of it? there already is a heaven promised to some, why make life exactly like heaven?
life is supposed to be hard, to make you overcome difficulties. why doesn't god brake the rule of no interference and save the children, or better yet, have all start life at 25 years. why should he? they will get to heaven anyway, or if you believe in reincarnation, have another chance. do you see any case in which a child died and there was nothing a human could have done? or find a way so that in the future it won't happen again?
yes, you are not getting through to me. because we understand evil differently. you see evil and you say that god doesn't exist because he doesn't fixes it. i see evil and i think of ways of fixing it and i thank god for having reason and the power to do so. all evil is mankind's fault. natural disasters are not evil, they simply are.
Originally posted by sonhouseI do not know what you think the "Christian story" is, and I can only
Your story and the christian story are one and the same, evil came about DESPITE an omnipotent god. Seems it wanted evil to come about then.
speak for myself, and I would ask you to limit your statements about
what I believe to those things I share with you. If you want to know
what I believe, ask me, I may from time to time agree with what you
think the "Christian story" is, and sometimes I may not, but at least
give me the opportunity to express my own points of view on any
topic we are discussing please.
Kelly
Originally posted by FabianFnasWe are all sinners; sinners go to Hell if they end up before God in
"You shall not kill" If you break this commandment, then what happens? Do you go to hell or what?
their own righteousness, and not the forgiveness of God through
Jesus Christ's sacrifice so that they are given God's righteousness
in place of their own.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayThen there are many Americans in hell after the wars in Korea, VietNam, the Gulf, Afganistan and the more recent Iraq.
We are all sinners; sinners go to Hell if they end up before God in
their own righteousness, and not the forgiveness of God through
Jesus Christ's sacrifice so that they are given God's righteousness
in place of their own.
Kelly
The commandment doesn't say that it is okay to kill in war, it just say it's not okay to kill, nothing more.
Originally posted by FabianFnasit is also ok to kill if god says so. it is ok to kill non-christians and non-jews
Then there are many Americans in hell after the wars in Korea, VietNam, the Gulf, Afganistan and the more recent Iraq.
The commandment doesn't say that it is okay to kill in war, it just say it's not okay to kill, nothing more.
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Originally posted by ZahlanziThe commandment is very clear about it: "You shall not kill", period.
it is also ok to kill if god says so. it is ok to kill non-christians and non-jews
Jews are non-christians, christians are non-jews. So you say it is ok to kill cristians and jews?
[edit] Ah, you're joking? Oh, I fell for it! 🙂
Originally posted by FabianFnasI'm telling you everyone, all people, without exception are sinners,
Then there are many Americans in hell after the wars in Korea, VietNam, the Gulf, Afganistan and the more recent Iraq.
The commandment doesn't say that it is okay to kill in war, it just say it's not okay to kill, nothing more.
you can pick and choose topics of sin if you want, but bottom line
all people from all walks of life are sinners.
Kelly
Originally posted by FabianFnasIf you are going to quote it, quote it that way you get the language
The commandment is very clear about it: "You shall not kill", period.
Jews are non-christians, christians are non-jews. So you say it is ok to kill cristians and jews?
[edit] Ah, you're joking? Oh, I fell for it! 🙂
correct, it does not say kill it says murder, there is difference between
the two words.
Kelly
Exodus 20:13
13 "You shall not murder.