20 Dec 11
Originally posted by FMFYou know what? Screw it. You win.
You keep talking about "America". What does "America" have to do with Indonesian Christians? What does "America English" have to do with the languages spoken by Indonesian Christians?
Have a nice day.
I would appreciate it, if next time you don't want to discuss something with me, just tell me to %#@& off, okay?
20 Dec 11
Originally posted by Suziannehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah#Christianity
*sigh*
No. (Amazed I have to spell this out, frankly.)
I am an American. My main exposure to Christians is Christians in America. Christians in America never use the word Allah (which is ARABIC) for God. Why on God's green earth would Christians in INDONESIA use the ARABIC word for God?
Now can you possibly answer ANY of the questions I've aske ...[text shortened]... tional language of Indonesia, then that one simple statement would have answered my questions!
20 Dec 11
Originally posted by SuzianneWell, to be honest, it's a bit difficult talking to you about what happens on - literally - the other side of the world when your only terms of reference seem to be what "Americans" do and don't do and what the "English" word is for something. It's a pity you decided to turn nasty. I have always respected you.
You know what? Screw it. You win.
20 Dec 11
Originally posted by FMFYOUR FOCUS IS ON MY NATIONALITY.
Well, to be honest, it's a bit difficult talking to you about what happens on - literally - the other side of the world when your only terms of reference seem to be what "Americans" do and don't do and what the "English" word is for something. It's a pity you decided to turn nasty. I have always respected you.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM ASKING ABOUT.
The caps are my frustration that you choose to portray yourself as stupid. The one thing I never thought you were is stupid.
As I said, if you don't want to answer my questions, then give me the miniscule measure of respect required to say so. Instead of wasting my time for almost an hour now. Don't want to answer anything I ask? THEN JUST SAY SO.
20 Dec 11
Originally posted by FMFWell, genius, instead of focusing on the fact that I am American and that I speak English, you could have said one, tiny little fact to me like "Well Suzianne, the fact is that Allah is not only the Arabic word for God, but it is the word for God in the Malaysian language as well as the Indonesian language."
What does the fact that Christians with U.S. nationality never use the word "Allah" for "God" have to do with non-English speaking, non-American Indonesian Christians?
But no. Because saying something as simple as that would have answered all my questions. Can't have that, can you?
As it was, I simply followed the link PK put in his post to find that tidbit. But you could not get off your "WTF does America have to do with it?" kick to just answer my question. Yeah, you respected me. Right. Sure. Not enough to just answer my flipping question though.
As I said before, have a nice day.
20 Dec 11
Originally posted by SuzianneYou brought up the fact that you are American, not me. As for you wanting to know what the word for "God" is in the Indonesian language, well, my first post - to which you responded - was: "Christians here in Indonesia use the names "Tuhan", "Allah" and "Yaweh".
Well, genius, instead of focusing on the fact that I am American and that I speak English, you could have said one, tiny little fact to me like "Well Suzianne, the fact is that Allah is not only the Arabic word for God, but it is the word for God in the Malaysian language as well as the Indonesian language."
20 Dec 11
Originally posted by SuzianneIt was you - not me - who said that American Christians don't use the word "Allah" for "God". I merely asked you what that had to do with non-English speaking, non-American Indonesian Christians?
As it was, I simply followed the link PK put in his post to find that tidbit. But you could not get off your "WTF does America have to do with it?" kick to just answer my question.
20 Dec 11
Originally posted by SuzianneI have already determined this guy is a fruitcake. Now you know it too.
Well, genius, instead of focusing on the fact that I am American and that I speak English, you could have said one, tiny little fact to me like "Well Suzianne, the fact is that Allah is not only the Arabic word for God, but it is the word for God in the Malaysian language as well as the Indonesian language."
But no. Because saying something as simple ...[text shortened]... ot enough to just answer my flipping question though.
As I said before, have a nice day.
21 Dec 11
Originally posted by MelanerpesYou're an English speaker, I take it. Presumably you know that the English you speak has been influenced and modified by contact with a whole range of cultures, languages and historical events? Is this a process that you assume hasn't happened with any other language?
I guess the issue here is - why would anyone (wherever in the world they may live) who is not speaking Arabic use the Arabic name for God?
21 Dec 11
Originally posted by FMFFeliz Navidad
You're an English speaker, I take it. Presumably you know that the English you speak has been influenced and modified by contact with a whole range of cultures, languages and historical events? Is this a process that you assume hasn't happened with any other language?
21 Dec 11
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Originally posted by FMFI remember reading that there was some concern expressed by Muslims that
You're an English speaker, I take it. Presumably you know that the English you speak has been influenced and modified by contact with a whole range of cultures, languages and historical events? Is this a process that you assume hasn't happened with any other language?
Christians should be permitted to use the term, 'Allah', for the God of the Bible, and it
strikes me as somewhat peculiar that they should want to do so, for Allah is, in my
mind, essentially a Muslim deity, a Pakistani Christian in contrast would never refer to
God as 'Allah', simply because it has Islamic connotations.