"Sheol – Old Testament Hebrew Word / Hades – New Testament Greek Word (Both words are speaking of the same place)"
"This place is in the center of the earth or globe. The Bible suggests that Sheol or Hades is downward (Ezekiel 32:21, 27; Numb. 16:30-35) and that God’s dwelling place is upward (Job 37:22; Isa. 14:31; Psalms 121:9; Duet. 32:22; Job 11:8). The term’s grave, pit and hell all translate sheol in the Old Testament. The context determines their meaning. The context can point to the grave and also the actual compartment of the departed spirit. The Bible also teaches that there were originally four compartments in this great cavern in the center of the earth.
Compartment Number One:
• Compartment of judgment, suffering & torment (see Psalm 9:17; Luke 16:23-24)
• The place where all the unsaved went when they died during the Old Testament era. This is where the unsaved still go today when they die (see Prov. 15:24 Psalm 9:17; 86:13; Isa. 14:9; Ezekiel 32:21; Luke 16:23).
• Later they will be resurrected to finally be judged in the Lake of Fire throughout eternity (see Revelation 20:14-15).
• The English word “hell” is also used in reference to a final judgment in the Lake of Fire (see Mark 9:42-48; Matt. 10:28). The actual Greek word used to describe the Lake of Fire is the word “Gehennah.” It was compared to the garbage dump outside Jerusalem that continually burned with refuge.
• There is a great gulf between these first two compartments, which cannot be bridged (See Luke 16:26).
Compartment Number Two:
• Compartment of comfort, joy and bliss (see Luke 16:25)
• The place where Christ went when He died (Psalms 16:10; Acts 2:27).
• The place where all the saved of the Old Testament era went prior to the cross and resurrection of Christ (Psalms 139:8; Luke 16:22).
• The place where Jesus said that He would be with the thief (see Luke 23:43).
• This compartment called “paradise” was emptied out after Christ’s resurrection (see Ephesians 4:8-10).
• This is when the Paradise compartment was transferred to Heaven (2 Cor. 12:4). When we die today, as a believer, we go up to paradise or Heaven and not down to the place called Hades (2 corinthians 5:8; Phil. 1:21; Rev. 6:9).
• This place was also called Abraham’s bosom because Abraham went to this place because of His faith in God’s revelation about salvation (Luke 16:22).
Compartment Number Three:
• Compartment where the wicked angelic spirits are imprisoned (Jude vs. 6).
• These were the angelic spirits who tried to destroy the line of Christ in the days of Noah (see 1 Peter 3:18-19).
• This was the place called “Tartarus” (2 Peter 2:4). The English word “hell” is actually rendered Tartarus. This is the only place where we see this word.
• Jesus went to “preach” to these wicked spirits (1 Pet. 3:19-20). He did not go into this place to fight them. His message was one of victory through the cross and His soon resurrection.
Compartment Number Four:
• Compartment where the demonic spirits will be released during the future Tribulation Period (Rev. 9:1-3).
• The place where Satan will be cast during the Millennium or 1,000 year reign of Christ (see Revelation 20:1-3; Isaiah 14:9,15).
• This is called the bottomless pit or “pit of abyss.” It is that compartment or place in Hades, which is at the center of the earth. This is why it is called the bottomless pit. It’s because there is ceiling in every direction due to its center location in the heart of the earth.
Today there are only three compartments that remain open in this place called Sheol or Hades due to the resurrection of Christ and the emptying out of the second compartment. However, the compartment of the lost is growing due to the many people who are on the broad, which leads to this place (Matthew 7:13-14). It is true: “hell (sheol) hath enlarged itself” (Isaiah 5:14)." http://www.bereaninternetministry.org/Charts/Hades.doc
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Comments: The crucifixion of Christ is the central focus of human history. His substitutionary spiritual death [separation from God the Father] provided the only acceptable sacrifice for the sins of the world: past, present and future. "He [the Father] made Him [Christ] who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." (2 Corinthians 5:21) People today are still trying to impress God by adding their own good works and/or morality to Christ's magnificent sacrifice. The Word of God says: "Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved." (Acts 16:31) Salvation and eternal life is available by faith alone in Christ alone plus nothing. God will not coerce your choice; its entirely your volitional responsibility. The crux temporal issue is not atheism vs. agnosticism vs. theism vs.religious ritual without reality.
It is your personal acceptance or rejection of a grace [free] gift paid for in full by Jesus Christ. The moment of your physical death seals your personal decision for eternity. Because of His Divine Integrity [His Divine Attributes of Justice; Righteousness and Immutability] He can neither deny Himself nor alter your personal choice. Yes, I do realize this will not become a well received thread.
However, I wouldn't be doing those of you who have not yet believed in Christ any favors by sugar coating your options or by withholding the facts regarding their diametrically opposed eternal consequences. Objectively focused, relevant questions will be answered in the sequence asked during the days and weeks ahead. For your own sake, please ponder the information given above. Thank you. -GB
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIt is your personal acceptance or rejection of a grace [free] gift paid for in full by Jesus Christ. The moment of your physical death seals your personal decision for eternity. Because of His Divine Integrity [His Divine Attributes of Justice; Righteousness and Immutability] He can neither deny Himself nor alter your personal choice. Yes, I do realize this will not become a well received thread. However, I wouldn't be doing those of you who have not yet believed in Christ any favors by sugar coating your options or by withholding the facts regarding their diametrically opposed eternal consequences. Objectively focused, relevant questions will be answered in the sequence asked during the days and weeks ahead. For your own sake, please ponder the information given above.
Tell us once again what the fate is that awaits those who do not find the things you claim here ~ or your sources ~ to be credible.
Furthermore, try to explain what the merits are of the kind of justice you think that this fate represents, according to your ideology.
Finally, what moral lessons can be drawn from aforementioned notion of "justice" and then applied to the implementation of justice by humans ~ in the course of their interactions ~ during their time on earth up to the point at which they die.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyDo you believe there is literally a cavern with 4 compartments at the centre of the earth?
[b]"Sheol – Old Testament Hebrew Word / Hades – New Testament Greek Word (Both words are speaking of the same place)"
"This place is in the center of the earth or globe. The Bible suggests that Sheol or Hades is downward (Ezekiel 32:21, 27; Numb. 16:30-35) and that God’s dwelling place is upward (Job 37:22; Isa. 14:31; Psalms 121:9; Duet. 32:22; ...[text shortened]... ys and weeks ahead. For your own sake, please ponder the information given above. Thank you. -GB[/b]
Originally posted by divegeesterYes. Because this truth is revealed in the Word of God. I've also speculated on how lonely being their waiting for the Great White Throne Judgment must be for unbelievers in Christ whose only companion will be memories of saying "No" to God's grace gift of salvation and eternal life.
Do you believe there is literally a cavern with 4 compartments at the centre of the earth?
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI'm sorry GB but this is so out of whack for me that I don't know where to begin. It would take me days to respond properly.
[b]"Sheol – Old Testament Hebrew Word / Hades – New Testament Greek Word (Both words are speaking of the same place)"
"This place is in the center of the earth or globe. The Bible suggests that Sheol or Hades is downward (Ezekiel 32:21, 27; Numb. 16:30-35) and that God’s dwelling place is upward (Job 37:22; Isa. 14:31; Psalms 121:9; Duet. 32:22; ...[text shortened]... ys and weeks ahead. For your own sake, please ponder the information given above. Thank you. -GB[/b]
So I think, I pass.
Besides it is no more foolish than Pharaoh agreeing to let God's people go and then have God harden his heart.
So 4 compartments in hell isn't much different than all the rest of the ways people slice up the bible.
God made man in His image and man turned right around and made God in their own image. And each man has a different image. It is no different than Mars Hill.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyOk, thanks. These literal 4 compartments that you believe are at the centre of the earth; are they in among the molten lava or are they in the mantle? If they are in the mantle, then they cannot be in the geometric "centre".
Yes. Because this truth is revealed in the Word of God. I've also speculated on how lonely being their waiting for the Great White Throne Judgment must be for unbelievers in Christ whose only companion will be memories of saying "No" to God's grace gift of salvation and eternal life.
Originally posted by divegeesterI always thought (incorrectly, it appears) that the three-tiered universe went out with Galileo and Copernicus.
Ok, thanks. These literal 4 compartments that you believe are at the centre of the earth; are they in among the molten lava or are they in the mantle? If they are in the mantle, then they cannot be in the geometric "centre".
But if this 4-cell chamber is really in the centre of this planet, then at least there is respite for the poor souls there. This planet and its sun will disappear in only a few million years.
But in order to live forever, maybe the inhabitants will then have to be transported to a more recent planet in a new galaxy? But even that will burn out. Maybe it says that in the Bible somewhere?
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThat is interesting. I don't recall ever hearing this four compartment theory before.
[b]"Sheol – Old Testament Hebrew Word / Hades – New Testament Greek Word (Both words are speaking of the same place)"
"This place is in the center of the earth or globe. The Bible suggests that Sheol or Hades is downward (Ezekiel 32:21, 27; Numb. 16:30-35) and that God’s dwelling place is upward (Job 37:22; Isa. 14:31; Psalms 121:9; Duet. 32:22; ...[text shortened]... ys and weeks ahead. For your own sake, please ponder the information given above. Thank you. -GB[/b]
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Originally posted by CalJustDo you believe in this literal 4 chambered cavern at the centre of the earth?
If this 4-cell chamber is in the centre of this planet, then at least there is respite for the poor souls there. This planet and its sun will disappear in only a few million years.
But in order to live forever, maybe the inhabitants will then have to be transported to a more recent planet in a new galaxy? But even that will burn out. Maybe it says that in the Bible somewhere?