Originally posted by Grampy Bobby'Sin' only really comes into my vocab (as an atheist) in regards to sport; or more precisely in the term 'sin bin.' (Rugby).
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If the noun "sin" is within your vocabulary, please comment on its categories [if any] and meaning to you. Thanks.[/b]
'The sin-bin is the bench where all players who have committed a yellow card offence sit out of the game for 10 minutes. If the referee believes a player has committed a serious foul or shown indiscipline.'
'Sin' therefore, in this context, is a lack of control and breaking of the agreed rules of the game. It is however quickly forgiven and the player is soon back on his feet without the threat of eternal damnation.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOriginally posted by robbie carrobie
There as far as I am aware two modes of sin, one is wilful and the other is involuntary, the result of being imperfect. Sin therefore has moral consequences. Those who wilfully practice sin are deemed to be morally reprehensible as being fully cognizant of the fact that their course of action stands condemned and seek to justify it in some way. Th ...[text shortened]... hold anyone accountable and yet within each of us there is a guiding compass of the conscience.
"There as far as I am aware two modes of sin, one is wilful and the other is involuntary, the result of being imperfect..."
Yes, however, I'd use the words: known and unknown sins; our free will makes the decision to commit all of our "mental attitude, verbal and overt sins" whether or not we're aware of violating God's Character and Righteous Standards at the time.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke'Sin' therefore, in this context, is a lack of control and breaking of the agreed rules of the game..."
'Sin' only really comes into my vocab (as an atheist) in regards to sport; or more precisely in the term 'sin bin.' (Rugby).
'The sin-bin is the bench where all players who have committed a yellow card offence sit out of the game for 10 minutes. If the referee believes a player has committed a serious foul or shown indiscipline.'
'Sin' therefore, ...[text shortened]... er quickly forgiven and the player is soon back on his feet without the threat of eternal damnation.
Ghost of a Duke, would you consider the possibility that God also has "rules of the game"?
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI chose my words carefully with the sport analogy, as there is indeed a religious sin parallel (rules of the game, indiscipline, lack of control).
'Sin' therefore, in this context, is a lack of control and breaking of the agreed rules of the game..."
Ghost of a Duke, would you consider the possibility that God also has "rules of the game"?
To ask an atheist though if a God, who by his very nature he doesn't believe in, has 'rules of the game,' is rather a strange question. I would first have to consider the possibility that God actually exists, before i could consider he has any rules and that we as human beings have a moral obligation to obey those rules.
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeOriginally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I chose my words carefully with the sport analogy, as there is indeed a religious sin parallel (rules of the game, indiscipline, lack of control).
To ask an atheist though if a God, who by his very nature he doesn't believe in, has 'rules of the game,' is rather a strange question. I would first have to consider the possibility that God actually exis ...[text shortened]... d consider he has any rules and that we as human beings have a moral obligation to obey those rules.
"I would first have to consider the possibility that God actually exists, before i could consider he has any rules and that we as human beings have a moral obligation to obey those rules."
Well reasoned and logical reply; thank you. If God and His Righteous Standards do not exist within the known universe, then what ultimate authoritative righteous standard has there ever been preserving and perpetuating the human race on planet earth?