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then you will show where the contradiction is? you will show where I have presumed anything too.

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yes but personally i don't believe a word that comes out your mouth, just because you say something doesn't make it true, i have committed no contradiction you simply lied and made it up and yet here you are once again pontificating about others when you have been caught doing exactly the thing you accuse others of. There is no contradiction, you simply made it up.

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yes so you say but you have not provided any reason why its a contradiction, you think that by saying it it, it makes it so, but there is not a single reason and no matter how much you repeat yourself and no matter how many times you highlight it, you have been caught lying, AGAIN, you have been caught simply fabricating untruth. Tell us why its a contradiction.

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Tell us why its a contradiction. You say it is, tell us why it is.

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tell us why its a contradiction divesjeester.

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yes it is great because you have been caught simply making lies up about people and cannot provide a single reason why we should believe what you say and not only that you have the stupidity to accuse them of intellectual dishonesty while you were at it. Oh dear, perhaps you are not such a Big fish after all?

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here are your words again divesjeester, lets see you substantiate them or be forever known as the hypocrite that you evidently purport to be. Your accusations were and i quote,

1.contradictions about your concrete beliefs,
2. your presumptions about other people and their beliefs
3. your arrogance
4. your intellectual dishonesty

1. Please provide evidence of the above from my statement divesjeester. Here it is again,

There as far as I am aware two modes of sin, one is wilful and the other is involuntary, the result of being imperfect. Sin therefore has moral consequences. Those who wilfully practice sin are deemed to be morally reprehensible as being fully cognizant of the fact that their course of action stands condemned and seek to justify it in some way. This presupposes that while an action may be deemed sinful if there is no knowledge that its sinful it may be difficult to hold anyone accountable and yet within each of us there is a guiding compass of the conscience.

Where have I contradicted myself? Where have i presumed anything about the beliefs of others, where have i displayed arrogance and where have i displayed intellectual dishonesty? you said it, so where is your evidence?

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No you tell us! you said it, you tell us. Explain why its a contradiction?

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I have documented them and I am waiting for your evidence.

here are your words again divesjeester, lets see you substantiate them or be forever known as the hypocrite that you evidently purport to be. Your accusations were and i quote,

1.contradictions about your concrete beliefs,
2. your presumptions about other people and their beliefs
3. your arrogance
4. your intellectual dishonesty

1. Please provide evidence of the above from my statement divesjeester. Here it is again,

There as far as I am aware two modes of sin, one is wilful and the other is involuntary, the result of being imperfect. Sin therefore has moral consequences. Those who wilfully practice sin are deemed to be morally reprehensible as being fully cognizant of the fact that their course of action stands condemned and seek to justify it in some way. This presupposes that while an action may be deemed sinful if there is no knowledge that its sinful it may be difficult to hold anyone accountable and yet within each of us there is a guiding compass of the conscience.

Where have I contradicted myself? Where have i presumed anything about the beliefs of others, where have i displayed arrogance and where have i displayed intellectual dishonesty? you said it, so where is your evidence?