Originally posted by divegeester
You see, here is another of those moments where you initially tried to speak with an authority you simply don't have and end up contradicting yourself. It is interesting.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Where have I contradicted myself?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
then you will show where the contradiction is? you will show where I have presumed anything too.

Originally posted by divegeester
I've just methodically read by your original post to you, highlighted in bold the contradiction and now you are pretending you don't know what I'm referring to.

I forgot to add "intellectual dishonesty" to the list of reasons why I bother with you Mr weedy.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes but personally i don't believe a word that comes out your mouth, just because you say something doesn't make it true, i have committed no contradiction you simply lied and made it up.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes but personally i don't believe a word that comes out your mouth, just because you say something doesn't make it true, i have committed no contradiction you simply lied and made it up and yet here you are once again pontificating about others when you have been caught doing exactly the thing you accuse others of. There is no contradiction, you simply made it up.

Originally posted by divegeester
As I've just said, it's highlighted in bold.

Please continue your dishonesty and pretend you know what I'm talking about.
😉

Originally posted by divegeester
What did I make up? I only used your words. I copy/pasted them for you to read.

Originally posted by divegeester
What did I make up? I only used your words. I copy/pasted them for you to read.

Originally posted by divegeester
It's there in bold in your two posts which I copy/pasted for you to read.

This is great.

here are your words again divesjeester, lets see you substantiate them or be forever known as the hypocrite that you evidently purport to be. Your accusations were and i quote,

1.contradictions about your concrete beliefs,
2. your presumptions about other people and their beliefs
3. your arrogance
4. your intellectual dishonesty

1. Please provide evidence of the above from my statement divesjeester. Here it is again,

There as far as I am aware two modes of sin, one is wilful and the other is involuntary, the result of being imperfect. Sin therefore has moral consequences. Those who wilfully practice sin are deemed to be morally reprehensible as being fully cognizant of the fact that their course of action stands condemned and seek to justify it in some way. This presupposes that while an action may be deemed sinful if there is no knowledge that its sinful it may be difficult to hold anyone accountable and yet within each of us there is a guiding compass of the conscience.

Where have I contradicted myself? Where have i presumed anything about the beliefs of others, where have i displayed arrogance and where have i displayed intellectual dishonesty? you said it, so where is your evidence?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
tell us why its a contradiction divesjeester.

Originally posted by divegeester
Have another read of my post on the previous page. 11th post down.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes it is great because you have been caught simply making lies up about people and cannot provide a single reason why we should believe what you say and not only that you have the stupidity to accuse them of intellectual dishonesty while you were at it. Oh dear, perhaps you are not such a Big fish after all?

Originally posted by divegeester
What lies have I made up Robbie? I've found you trying to speak with authority in one post and then contradicting yourself when questioned about it. There are no lies.