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    29 Nov '11 03:37
    Originally posted by rwingett
    🙂😀😉😛😕😠😳🙁:'(😞😏😵😲🙄😴
    Mixed feelings, huh?
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    29 Nov '11 03:39
    Originally posted by FMF
    Then why do it in such a nasty, alienating, and spiritually twisted way? You give off no "Good News" vibe, RJHinds. None. You give off negativity. You take delight in circular arguments. You surely alienate people from Christ just as Dasa has probably alienated more people from the Vedas than he has attracted. You should reflect on the online persona you have chosen for yourself and its effect.
    The truth of the Holy Bible is not easy for all people to take. I am not
    going to sugar coat it to make it seem sweeter, when in reality it is a
    bitter pill to take, yet it is good news to those that do.
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    29 Nov '11 03:39
    Originally posted by rwingett
    🙂😀😉😛😕😠😳🙁:'(😞😏😵😲🙄😴
    wow, this is a real spirituality forum revival,aint it? 😛 😀😀
  4. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    29 Nov '11 03:41
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The truth of the Holy Bible is not easy for all people to take. I am not
    going to sugar coat it to make it seem sweeter, when in reality it is a
    bitter pill to take, yet it is good news to those that do.
    So if you take the 'pill' it is not bitter, but if you dont , then it is? Is that right? because I can see some plot holes in your story there ... 🙂
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    29 Nov '11 03:42
    Originally posted by FMF
    It is not perfectly okay for insults to be hurled at Christians. I have never "hurled insults" at you, or anyone else, because they are a Christian. That is flat out not true. I wonder if you'll retract it.
    There you go again, making up things I did not say. I wish you would try
    to understand what I am actually saying rather than turning my words
    into something else so you can attack me.
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    29 Nov '11 03:45
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    So basically you are only concerned in a portion of the truth (the portion that deals with JC and christianity)?
    May I suggest that there is more to truth than just what is in the bible. A great deal more. And I would add to that that it is quite pertinent to consider the WHOLE truth and not just bits and pieces of it( to have a sound understanding of ...[text shortened]... believe you do by only talking about JC and the christian god (and ONLY other related topics)
    Right. I can not possibly deal with all truth throughout the universe.
    I wish to concentrate on what is most important to us all before we
    die in the flesh and have to face judgment before God.
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    29 Nov '11 03:46
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    There you go again, making up things I did not say. I wish you would try
    to understand what I am actually saying rather than turning my words
    into something else so you can attack me.
    I really dont know why people care so much?
    I'm guilty as anyone else of this (ie taking insults personally), but thats me, I'm supposed to be like the real sensitive, emotional guy around here, or so I thought. It seems there are some other touchy ones out there.

    Anyway, just answer FMF patiently and he will treat you accordingly. Oh, and while you're at it, try to answer some of the questions that have been put to you,eh? 😉
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    29 Nov '11 03:48
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    So if you take the 'pill' it is not bitter, but if you dont , then it is? Is that right? because I can see some plot holes in your story there ... 🙂
    No that is not what I said. Just reread it and concentrate on the meaning
    of the words without trying to read something into it.
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    29 Nov '11 03:50
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Right. I can not possibly deal with all truth throughout the universe.
    I wish to concentrate on what is most important to us all before we
    die in the flesh and have to face judgment before God.
    Yeah, you cant deal with all the truth in the universe, I'm not asking that of you. What I would like you to CONSIDER is the scientific point of view when dealing with spiritual matters. (And not that Behe guy. Forget about him, he's too contreversial ,at best. Why not consider some conventional scientific thought (apply it to your religion), and go from there).
    Remember, this is only a suggestion, I am not telling you to do this, ok?
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    29 Nov '11 04:07
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    Yeah, you cant deal with all the truth in the universe, I'm not asking that of you. What I would like you to CONSIDER is the scientific point of view when dealing with spiritual matters. (And not that Behe guy. Forget about him, he's too contreversial ,at best. Why not consider some conventional scientific thought (apply it to your religion), and go from there).
    Remember, this is only a suggestion, I am not telling you to do this, ok?
    I believe the conventional scientific thought, as you call it, is misleading
    people when it comes to the origin of life and how humans came into
    existence. So I have already considered it and have dismissed it. Some
    scientist in Biology, like Behe, have realized that what they had accepted
    as truth without question is not true on investigation. Evolution had
    become a sacred cow religion for many in the conventional scientific
    world and they would not dare question it because of the fear of being
    excommunicated from that religious group of scientists.
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    29 Nov '11 04:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I believe the conventional scientific thought, as you call it, is misleading
    people when it comes to the origin of life and how humans came into
    existence. So I have already considered it and have dismissed it. Some
    scientist in Biology, like Behe, have realized that what they had accepted
    as truth without question is not true on investigation. Evolut ...[text shortened]... uestion it because of the fear of being
    excommunicated from that religious group of scientists.
    I see your point. But I do not believe that conventional scientific thought is misleading people when it comes to the origins of life. They dont have the full answer, I will admit that, but that is not to say that they are not on the right track.
    I am assuming you are a "Young Earth Creationist". Are you? (I would like to know this before we continue)
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    29 Nov '11 07:021 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    It's true. There's been nothing but junk in here for weeks. The last person out, turn off the lights.
    double posts
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    29 Nov '11 07:05
    Originally posted by rwingett
    It's true. There's been nothing but junk in here for weeks. The last person out, turn off the lights.
    Why complain, instead evaluate your level of topics and responses, you are as
    much a part of this board as anyone else.
    Kelly
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    29 Nov '11 07:281 edit
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    I see your point. But I do not believe that conventional scientific thought is misleading people when it comes to the origins of life. They dont have the full answer, I will admit that, but that is not to say that they are not on the right track.
    I am assuming you are a "Young Earth Creationist". Are you? (I would like to know this before we continue)
    I believe in the Holy Bible and it appears to mean to support a young
    earth of only a few thousand years in age. Also the scientific evidence
    that I'm aware of, when properly evaluated, supports a young earth
    when compared to the billions of years imagined by evolutionist to
    support their theory. The real evidence will not even support an earth
    that is a million years of age, even when it is stretched to its limit.
    Most old earth scientist have not bothered to considered new evidence
    since the original calculations were done and are behind the times.
    They choose to ignore the new evidence because it would conflict with
    their sacred theory of evolution.

    P.S. Here is just one website pointing out some problem with the old
    earth estimate of the age of the earth.

    http://www.earthage.org/youngearthev/evidence_for_a_young_earth.htm
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    29 Nov '11 08:23
    Originally posted by rwingett
    It's true. There's been nothing but junk in here for weeks. The last person out, turn off the lights.
    To an extent, it was true but I feel there is an improvement now. But why couldn't you, with your obvious intelligence, do something to improve it or liven it up?
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