Originally posted by RJHindsOk. So no way they would have noticed a bright unuseal light or star in heaven? Ok if that's what you think...
As is pointed out in Luke 2 the shepherds in the field were not gazing into the heavens at the time. They were instead busy watching over their flock and were surprized and frightened by the glory of the angels. They had no time to mistake these angels as a star. But notice that the angels departed and went back up into heaven. At some point as they we ...[text shortened]... se angels probably looked like a star again, but by then the Shepherds already knew what it was.
Originally posted by menace71So if the magi knew before hand what this meant, why did god's own people not know it and not see it and many, many of them not start looking for the location of Jesus being born?
Your assuming nobody else saw this star but the bible does not state either way. We know absolutely that Magi from the East saw it and actually knew it's meaning beforehand. When they arrived at the capitol of the Jews which makes sense because they were looking for the King of the Jews this is usually were one might find Kings. What is not as clear is if t ...[text shortened]... den to use the stars in a way contrary to what they were taught and were not looking.
Originally posted by Rajk999Precisely my point thoughout my exchanges with Galveston in this thread.
Correct. If you notice Galveston says :
The issue here is what the Bible says and does not say, not what we think.
and then concludes by telling us what he thinks :
This star was clearly not from God and with it's original directing these magi to Herod, not Jesus, proves it had a sinister purpose and could only have been controled by something evil, satan.
How could people be so blind?
Originally posted by galveston75The Jews mainly the religious folks of that day were not really concerned about the things of God they were more concerned with keeping their place the religious system in place. So yes not only did many of the Jews miss the King of Kings humble entrance into to this world they also missed who the messiah really was and they crucified Him. G-Man ? you really don't know your bible very well do you. Jesus called the religious people of his day an obstinate People who while hearing did not hear and seeing but do not see.
So if the magi knew before hand what this meant, why did god's own people not know it and not see it and many, many of them not start looking for the location of Jesus being born?
You see there is a clear picture here that the Bible is describing. This star or light was never mentioned at all by being seen by not even "one" of God's people who should h ...[text shortened]... this very good as it actually put his own son's life in danger or he nothing to do with it.....