Star of Bethlehem ??

Star of Bethlehem ??

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Originally posted by galveston75
"Also these Magi or astrologers were not brought or summond by God.
God disapproves of astrology and would not be interested in these men at all for any reason"


Where does this say they were using astrology to find Jesus? Again you are slyishly putting words into something I did not say. Why do you continue to do this?
Then of what relevance is your claim that they were astrologers?

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Originally posted by galveston75
You obviously are missing the point of why I quoted that scripture. I know clearly when that scripture is applied but I was hoping you'd get the point that satan has the power and ability to use "signs" to use against humans to do his wicked deeds as he did with the star or light with the magi. Sorry you missed that.
What I saw Galveston was you erroneously attempting to use a scripture to back up the JW claim you are making. I called you on it.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Because they wanted too.....

So the obvious question then would be do you seriously think God directed them to do all of these things because it was foretold to happen?

If this is your thought then you'd have to agree that "all" the bad things the bible foretold and has happened, God caused them in order that his prophecies would come true. Really? Is this your opinion?
My opinion is formed through the evidences in scripture which I have quoted to you several times. You make an opposing opinion based only on conjecture, assumption and the erroneous use of the Thessalonians scripture.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Because they wanted too.....
They "wanted" to do all these things and avoided Herod, and yet you still adhere to the JW dogma you have been taught.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Excuse me for the typo........ So now for the second time yes I did SEE the video. I would think you would have caught that in my previous answer.
I didn't, I can only see what you write.

I wanted to know if you had viewed the video in its entirety and you have, so we are talking about the same things, thank you this helps me see you.

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Originally posted by divegeester
I didn't, I can only see what you write.

I wanted to know if you had viewed the video in its entirety and you have, so we are talking about the same things, thank you this helps me see you.
I'm so glad your happy now......

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Originally posted by divegeester
Then of what relevance is your claim that they were astrologers?
Really? I give up on trying with you.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Really? I give up on trying with you.
Ditto. Do you drink beer? If so let's have one...

🙂

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Originally posted by divegeester
Ditto. Do you drink beer? If so let's have one...

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Sure, why not....Lol

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Originally posted by divegeester
- looking for signs in the heavens is not astrology.
This is what cracks me up.
Redefining words.
Priceless!

Astrology, in its broadest sense, is the search for meaning in the sky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology

btw:
Halley's Comet appeared in 66AD ... just before Matthew was written ....

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Enjoy the crack.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
This is what cracks me up.
Redefining words.
Priceless!

Astrology, in its broadest sense, is the search for meaning in the sky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology

btw:
Halley's Comet appeared in 66AD ... just before Matthew was written ....
I don't know what you think Hailey's comet has to do with anything, but it is not know when Matthew's gospel was wriiten. It could have easily been wriiten much earlier than 66 A.D. according to some experts.

http://carm.org/when-were-gospels-written-and-by-whom

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't know what you think Hailey's comet has to do with anything, but it is not know when Matthew's gospel was wriiten. It could have easily been wriiten much earlier than 66 A.D. according to some experts.

http://carm.org/when-were-gospels-written-and-by-whom
Besides many more then just the magi would have seen comet.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't know what you think Hailey's comet has to do with anything, ...
Writers like to spice up their works of fiction with recent events. Halley's
comet would have been talked about for years so anyone writing after 66AD would have been tempted to put in a reference to a "star".

The vast majority of scholars date Matthews gospel no earlier than 70AD.

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http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n2/star-of-bethlehem

maybe it was an angel.....I don't know what the word for star is in these passages but in other places in the bible stars & angels is used interchangeably

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