25 Dec '13 03:07>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem
So what say you ? In theory we can see what was in the sky from 7BC to 2BC
Manny
So what say you ? In theory we can see what was in the sky from 7BC to 2BC
Manny
Originally posted by menace71He doesn't convince me.
RJ watch the video you always want us to watch your links LOL I think you might like it and he backs up his theories with what the sky was like @ 3-2 BC and while I'm about 95% convinced I'd like to research it a bit more. The whole premise is based upon if God created the heavens for signs and seasons and the passage of time why would God not mark the time of birth and even The Death and resurrection of The SON ?
Manny
Originally posted by RJHindsHow does that affect his overall premise regarding the astronomic indicators that were ocuuring at the time of the star of Bethelehem?
His information from the New Testament on the time of death is wrong since he assumes the traditional Friday crucifixion, which conflicts with both prophecy and scripture accounts.
Originally posted by divegeesterHe may also be wrong on his assumptions concerning the star of Bethelenem too. He makes the assumption that Kepler was not looking for evidence for the star before the 4 B.C. time that was believed to be the time King Herod the Great died. He failed to backup his statement that King Herod the Great died in 1 B.C.
How does that affect his overall premise regarding the astronomic indicators that were ocuuring at the time of the star of Bethelehem?
Originally posted by RJHindsI thought he gave good reason for the date of death of Herrod, but it's fairly irrelevant anyway. But as usual you are barking up the wrong tree. Despite the solid astronimical research indicating that these celestial events occurred on the dates calculated you still would argue them being incorrect based on a labelling the day of the week Christ died. And yet you accept that the Turin shroud is actually the burial cloth of Christ on the basis of the flimsiest of evidence and it's physicality being contacry to scripture?
He may also be wrong on his assumptions concerning the star of Bethelenem too. He makes the assumption that Kepler was not looking for evidence for the star before the 4 B.C. time that was believed to be the time King Herod the Great died. He failed to backup his statement that King Herod the Great died in 1 B.C.
It is true that Johannes Kepler suggest ...[text shortened]... cate that Jesus was born in the Spring at the time of the Passover. So his dates will not work.
Originally posted by RJHindsBtw the arguments you present here don't make sense. How the heck has Jesus attendance at Passover got anything to do with what's in the video? There is one Passover per year and Jesus could have had his birthday at any time in it. I don't know why I'm even bothering to discuss this with you actually.
He may also be wrong on his assumptions concerning the star of Bethelenem too. He makes the assumption that Kepler was not looking for evidence for the star before the 4 B.C. time that was believed to be the time King Herod the Great died. He failed to backup his statement that King Herod the Great died in 1 B.C.
It is true that Johannes Kepler suggest ...[text shortened]... cate that Jesus was born in the Spring at the time of the Passover. So his dates will not work.
Originally posted by divegeesterHe gave no proof that the date of the death of Herod the Great was 1 B.C. instead of 4 B.C. That does not mean he must be wrong, but only that I need more proof to convince me. These celestial events could have occurred at other times too. Who knows for sure?
I thought he gave good reason for the date of death of Herrod, but it's fairly irrelevant anyway. But as usual you are barking up the wrong tree. Despite the solid astronimical research indicating that these celestial events occurred on the dates calculated you still would argue them being incorrect based on a labelling the day of the week Christ died. ...[text shortened]... rist on the basis of the flimsiest of evidence and it's physicality being contacry to scripture?