Originally posted by Dasa
Who are these others.....do they live the spiritual life of purification and do they have any knowledge.
Or are they the atheists who say the cosmos just popped into existence without cause or meaning.
Or are they the followers of false religion who say animal cruelty is fine with their God.
Vedanta has the last word when it comes to spiritual knowledg ...[text shortened]... intend to find out for yourself.....you just whimsically reject in favour of your speculations.
you cant tell people to become vegetarians. This is one where we lead by example. You've made your stance on this abundantly clear.
I think the world would be better off if everyone was a vegetarian, but its not going to happen overnight, and some may never become vegetarians.
since you have made your point so often about this matter, let me reinterate mine, in the hope that you may see that it is possible to have a bonafide spiritual life AND eat meat.
So basically, it is the dissacociation from the meat, from the life that is being taken, that I have a problem with.
As a simple and direct example I would like to use the example of the indegenous aborigonals of Australia.
They were possibly the most "in tune" people with the way they went about feeding themselves, (in tune with the land, with nature, which is "god" ). They wasted nothing. They were connected to the meat they slaughtered. If I had to guess, I would say that they left the smallest carbon footprint of any society that has lived on this planet.
They would move about to find food and allow the plants they picked to re-grow as they went to other places to find food and then , maybe return to those other plants in a couple of years, when they were once again regenrated naturally. Can you see where I'm going with this?
But you must stop lecturing us on this topic. It is not working.
Some of us are herbivores,some are carnivores yet otheres ,such as I, are omnivoures.
The past lives of the people that currently reside on planet Earth are many and varied. This is why we are called the rainbow people. Thats why Hitler was never going to succeed. While genetically, we all come from the same mitocondrial ape-human "Eve", this is only the physical side of our evolution.
There are many here now with greatly varying views on life and who they are.
Some are from one part of the galaxy while others are from other parts.
Basically there is a diversity of "souls" on this planet that is unmatched by any other planet with similar conditions and similarly intelligent lifeforms.
Some people chould become vegetarians,(or just eat less meat) to get in touch with their spiritual sides. Some should stop wasting their jissom on emotionless, desperate sexual activities. Etc.
But I believe you have to treat these type of matters on a case by case basis.
No, I'm afraid I cant endorse vegetarianism the way you do.
You will have more success at answering questions about vegetarianism (and other stuffπ ), when it comes up. Rather than just starting threads about vegetarianism, as if it was integral for ALL people to take up to have a bona fide spiritual life, you should take a more recptive/feminine approach to getting your point across. (You know what I mean? you wait for the "male" approach" and then answer in a non-derisive,non-controlling,non-preachy way).
I am sympathetic to your stance, but not to your approach.