Originally posted by jaywillAtheists think Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian because they don'tWe dont actually profess that Jesus lives within us, that's the kind of mumbo jumbo
that we expect from born again Christians who are self obsessed with their own
salvation and rather than study the Bible are concerned with an emotionalism. we
are a little more logical and rational than that.
What do you think of that Christian bro ...[text shortened]... but his theological interpretations -
know any better. If there are any atheists reading these post and
have any understanding at all, it should be clear to them that the
JW's are not Christian and profess an antiChrist religion while still
using the name of Christ and pretending to be Christian.
Originally posted by RJHindsSo what scriptures tell you not to use the name Jesus anymore?
Atheists think Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian because they don't
know any better. If there are any atheists reading these post and
have any understanding at all, it should be clear to them that the
JW's are not Christian and profess an antiChrist religion while still
using the name of Christ and pretending to be Christian.
Originally posted by galveston75I think atheists could very easily agree with you on this because they
Ok, break down word by word what these discriptions mean and if that could apply to the Almighty God...
Could a spiritual being in the way we concieve God as being from eternity to eternity be called a SON or CHILD? Isn't a son or child an offspring of another being?
"His name will be called"????? If Jesus were truly God all along from eternity ...[text shortened]... ame as his King who rules over him?
You have to view this as simply as it truly is.
too do not believe in God. Yet you claim you believe in God, but you
are like the Moslems, who profess and believe in a different god. The
main difference is they call their god, allah and you use the name,
Jehovah.
Originally posted by RJHindsWe believe in the God of the Bible and Jehovah is his name. Perhaps one day you'll not be blinded and come to know him. I hope you do.
I think atheists could very easily agree with you on this because they
too do not believe in God. Yet you claim you believe in God, but you
are like the Moslems, who profess and believe in a different god. The
main difference is they call their god, allah and you use the name,
Jehovah.
Originally posted by jaywillThese are the kind of things along with the use of Jehovah in the New
(John 14:10) . . .Do you not believe that I am in union with the Father
Which Greek word translates to "union" in that passage of [b](John 14:10) ?
Robbie is a hypocrit here. He is paraphrasing where he boasted that he only cares for the original language.
There are probably thousands of places where the New World translat ak of Christ living in the Christians as "mumbo jumbo" talk. Don't listen to him.[/b]
Testament that Dr. BeDuhn does not count against them, when he
declares the New World Translation is the most accurate of the Bible
translations. It makes me believe he is sympathetic with the JW's.
He appears bias to me.
Originally posted by RJHindsSpeaking for myself I don't really give a damn and I don't think many other atheists would either.
Atheists think Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian because they don't
know any better. If there are any atheists reading these post and
have any understanding at all, it should be clear to them that the
JW's are not Christian and profess an antiChrist religion while still
using the name of Christ and pretending to be Christian.
If JW's call themselves Christian who are we to argue?
Or any other denomination you want to take issue with.
I am also puzzled as to why you should care what we think on the subject.
Originally posted by galveston75The Moslem's also say they believe in the god of the Bible and the Quran
We believe in the God of the Bible and Jehovah is his name. Perhaps one day you'll not be blinded and come to know him. I hope you do.
or Koran as I call it. But they claim their god's name is Allah and he has
no son, which is clearly not the God of the Christians. Jehovah as you
describe him is clearly not the Christian God, but another god just like
the god of Islam.
Originally posted by googlefudgePersonally, I don't give a damn what you think. I was just pointing
Speaking for myself I don't really give a damn and I don't think many other atheists would either.
If JW's call themselves Christian who are we to argue?
Or any other denomination you want to take issue with.
I am also puzzled as to why you should care what we think on the subject.
out to jaywill that anyone with common sense, even atheist, should
be able to reason that we and the JW's are talking about two different
God's. Apparently, you do not fall within the category I was referring
to. You should just ignore what you can not understand.
Originally posted by jaywillwell thank goodness for that, at least i wont have to trawl through endless volumes of scriptures
I told others not to listen to you. Therefore I should take my own advice.
I will not be reading any of your posts anymore. I told others not to listen to you. I think I should take the lead then, not to.
attempting to substantiate a dogma not supported by the text. Have a nice life.
Originally posted by RJHindsi have already answered it, i will not do so again.
Are you ignoring my question? I think I have given you plenty of
time to reply. I know you will refuse to go back and find my post
so I will repeat the question.
Well, is the child to be born to be called the Mighty God or not; and, if not,
what is your proof?
Originally posted by RJHindsMan I tell you buddy. To deny Jehovah and his existance is a fatal mistake. You need to re read the account of Pharaoh and his claims about Jehovah once again. No life insurance is gonna help you with this one.........
The Moslem's also say they believe in the god of the Bible and the Quran
or Koran as I call it. But they claim their god's name is Allah and he has
no son, which is clearly not the God of the Christians. Jehovah as you
describe him is clearly not the Christian God, but another god just like
the god of Islam.
Originally posted by RJHindspeace be upon him for a thousand generations! He has shown the snake trinitarian translators up
These are the kind of things along with the use of Jehovah in the New
Testament that Dr. BeDuhn does not count against them, when he
declares the New World Translation is the most accurate of the Bible
translations. It makes me believe he is sympathetic with the JW's.
He appears bias to me.
for what they are, biased and unreliable. Attempting to impose their dogmatic interpretations upon
scripture where none exist in the ancient text.
Originally posted by RJHindsActually we can and do realise that the different denominations are mutually contradictory and have
Personally, I don't give a damn what you think. I was just pointing
out to jaywill that anyone with common sense, even atheist, should
be able to reason that we and the JW's are talking about two different
God's. Apparently, you do not fall within the category I was referring
to. You should just ignore what you can not understand.
radically different ideas about most aspects of their religions including god.
However for classification purposes it is best not to look at differences, as you can use differences
to end up classifying almost every single individual as having a separate religion, but to look at
similarities. Which is how JW's and all the other Christian denominations all get classed as Christian
denominations.
However when it comes down to it we don't generally really care what you call yourselves.
So I do understand what your point is, but don't care.
I was just intrigued by your calling on atheists to support your position.
Perhaps if you don't want an atheist to respond you should avoid using us to justify or support your
position.
Especially as you don't really understand atheists or atheism.