The ascension

The ascension

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@divegeester said
In the atmosphere or outside in outer space?
Don’t you ever get tired of acting like this.

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@mike69 said
Yes Heaven would be up in another realm.
I didn't ask about whether it is a "another realm". I asked if your belief is that "heaven" is up in the sky?

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You see, the point here is the question of whether his body went up into the sky, heaven is up in the sky is all an allegory rather than literally true.

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@fmf said
I didn't ask about whether it is a "another realm". I asked if your belief is that "heaven" is up in the sky?
I don’t care where Heaven is in this aspect, just the strength/grace of God and his love for us.

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@mike69 said
I don’t care where Heaven is in this aspect, just the strength/grace of God and his love for us.
So you are comfortable with the story of his body ascending up into the sky simply being allegorical or metaphorical?

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@mike69 said
Don’t you ever get tired of acting like this.
Your dodge of my question is noted.

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@fmf said
So you are comfortable with the story of his body ascending up into the sky simply being allegorical or metaphorical?
No

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@mike69 said
I don’t care where Heaven is in this aspect, just the strength/grace of God and his love for us.
The question in my OP remains pertinent, but it’s ok if you don’t like it or want to respond to it.

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@mike69 said
No
One minute you say you don't care, the next you say you are not comfortable with it. One post and then the next post.

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@fmf said
One minute you say you don't care, the next you say you are not comfortable with it. One post and then the next post.

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Show me where I said that.

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@mike69 said
Show me where I said that.
An hour or so ago on this thread.

Do you believe Matthew 27:53 is literally true?

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You see, for me the point is, if the story of Jesus's sacrifice is allegorical, then it has resonance and philosophical relevance, albeit still debatable and questionable: but, if it must be accepted as literally true, then ho hum. People cannot simply decide to believe supernatural things that they do not find credible.

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@mike69
You see, for me the point is, if the story of Jesus's sacrifice is allegorical, then it has resonance and philosophical relevance, albeit still debatable and questionable: but, if it must be accepted as literally true, then ho hum. People cannot simply decide to believe supernatural things that they do not find credible.
I said I believed in the resurrection and didn’t care/focus where this realm was. You’re personal insights on the subject also don’t concern me.

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@mike69 said
I said I believed in the resurrection and didn’t care/focus where this realm was. You’re personal insights on the subject also don’t concern me.
You’re personal insights on the subject also don’t concern me.

Then feel free to talk to someone else.