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@secondson saidThe fact that other religions are different from yours or that their literature is different from yours is not evidence that your religion is "true".
The Torah is contained in the Bible. The Koran contains a copy of much of the Torah, but denies the identity the Bible gives Jesus Christ.
That all religions have books isn't the point. They don't compare. You're living in a world of intellectual illusions if you think they do. What on earth did you learn from the Bible all those decades calling yourself a Christian if y ...[text shortened]... alists fashion meant to degrade you to make myself feel better than you or reinforce my convictions.
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@sonship saidWell, I don't believe the things you assert in the alternative names you offer for your ideology either.
At best it is a lopsided and biased one side only representation.
I never see from them a - "God's Son Made Sin For Us Ideology".
I never see from them a - "God's Son Became Sin Ideology."
I never see from them an - "Innocent Righteous Son Bore Curse for Sinners Ideology"
Nor do I believe that there is a god that tortures billions of people for their failure to believe what you believe.
But you do.
And that's the part of your ideology that robs you of a credible moral compass.
So that's why my term cuts straight to the moral darkness and essential nature of your god figure.
Call it lopsided if you want. I call it getting to the heart of what you propagate.
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@secondson saidIs the "Lake of Fire" not fire, then? And does the fire annihilate non-believers or does it subject them to an afterlife of eternal torment? According to sonship ~ laid out in maybe 10,000 posts over the last decade ~ the Bible says what it says. Even he has admitted to feeling troubled by it. He describes the punishment as being motivated by vengeance and by wrath. Billions and billions of people are subjected to it. The fire and the suffering and the smoke rising supposedly goes on forever. My term for it is the torturer god ideology.
The Bible says what it says.
And it never says people are "burned alive".
@fmf saidAsk divegeester. He'll probably tell you the "lake of fire" is a metaphor.
Is the "Lake of Fire" not fire, then? And does the fire annihilate non-believers or does it subject them to an afterlife of eternal torment? According to sonship ~ laid out in maybe 10,000 posts over the last decade ~ the Bible says what it says. Even he has admitted to feeling troubled by it. He describes the punishment as being motivated by vengeance and by wrath. Billions and ...[text shortened]... fering and the smoke rising supposedly goes on forever. My term for it is the torturer god ideology.
It's perfectly clear. The scriptures tell of judgment and everlasting punishment.
But the scriptures do not say there's physical torture.
But who in their right mind would want to endure an eternity in outer darkness? Separated from the light? Nothing to feel, taste, hear or see? Left with only ones memories.
I think I'd rather be on fire than face that.
Just sayin.
@secondson saidIf you don't subscribe to the torturer god ideology, good for you. It's such ghastly moral nonsense, after all. Good for you.
Ask divegeester. He'll probably tell you the "lake of fire" is a metaphor.
It's perfectly clear. The scriptures tell of judgment and everlasting punishment.
But the scriptures do not say there's physical torture.
But who in their right mind would want to endure an eternity in outer darkness? Separated from the light? Nothing to feel, taste, hear or see? Left with only ones memories.
I think I'd rather be on fire than face that.
Just sayin.