The Eternal Son of God

@fmf said
You're not making a moral argument.

No, I was telling you that no one promised you the next 20 years, neither one of us
may live out today. Its as the Lord wills not us, there is a time appointed for each
of us to die.

@kellyjay said
Put you head in the sand if you want, your mind isn't reality

Is your mind "reality"?

@fmf said
Use the word "deserve" in an answer.

So I have to answer you using the words you want to see, naw, I'll use the words I
want to use to express my answers. When you speak, I think you should use the
words you want not mine, fail enough?

You deserve that right!

@kellyjay said
No, I was telling you that no one promised you the next 20 years, neither one of us
may live out today. Its as the Lord wills not us, there is a time appointed for each
of us to die.

Well, I may live 10 or 20 years more, or I may die later this evening. I am at peace with it. I have seen the plot where I will be buried. That will be the end of me and my story.

@kellyjay said
So I have to answer you using the words you want to see, naw, I'll use the words I
want to use to express my answers. When you speak, I think you should use the
words you want not mine, fail enough?

You deserve that right!

I make the suggestion because you running away from my question - you are running away from the word "deserve" and you are running away from making any kind of moral argument and are just making assertions instead.

@fmf said
Is your mind "reality"?

It is a small part of the universe, it isn't the founder of it, nor the final say in what is
and isn't truth, that would be God, not the god between our ears, but the creator
of the universe and all that is in it.

@kellyjay said
It is a small part of the universe, it isn't the founder of it, nor the final say in what is
and isn't truth, that would be God, not the god between our ears, but the creator
of the universe and all that is in it.

You said my mind isn't "reality". Is your mind "reality"?

@fmf said
I make the suggestion because you running away from my question.

I don't think you read what is said to you half the time, you simply skim until you
can come up with a shot. Make any suggestion you want, I've never tried to tell you
to shut up or keep your opinions to yourself.

@kellyjay said
And judgment day nothing willremain hidden, every choice, action, inaction, word uttered, or when we remainedsilent are all going to be on full display. We will be naked before the universe onthat day with no where to hide, and no excuses, then will judgment begin.

So you may face eternal torture too as a result of this judgement, is that what you mean?

@kellyjay said
I don't think you read what is said to you half the time, you simply skim until you
can come up with a shot. Make any suggestion you want, I've never tried to tell you
to shut up or keep your opinions to yourself.

You won't make a moral argument about why people who don't believe the things you believe "deserve" to be tortured for eternity.

@fmf said
So you may face eternal torture too as a result of this judgement, is that what you mean?

The Bible knows nothing about "eternal torture".

@secondson said
The Bible knows nothing about "eternal torture".

I am not interested in your cowardly attempts to use me as a proxy in your disagreement with the torturer god ideologues here. Take it up with them directly.

@fmf said
So you may face eternal torture too as a result of this judgement, is that what you mean?

The world has been condemned, that is the starting part with which we live.
Nothing about me sets me apart of the judgment of God. The only thing that
saves us is the grace of Jesus Christ not our thought process or how good we are.
I'm as wicked a sinner like everyone else, worse than some, better than others but
that doesn't matter the best of us are all still sinners, it only takes one!

1 Peter 4:18
And “If the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?”

We live in a world where it is just such a part of our makeup and lives that more
times than not we don't even see the evil that is we are doing. That is the world
we live in, and the world Jesus came to save. We were so bad off when discussing
us it was said we were dead in our sins, the dead cannot make themselves better.

So the eternal God sent Jesus to save us, by taking on all of our guilt paying for
it fully by taking on our punishment. You keep griping about me singing this same
tune, but it is the most important truth there is in light of the fate that awaits all
people who die outside of God's grace, for they are condemn already.

John 3: 18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Everyone speaks about John 3:16 most know it by heart but they are failing to see
the context of that verse. It isn't saying for God soooooooooo loved the world, it
is saying that in its context that because God loved the world He sent Jesus just
like when He had Moses create the serpent in the wilderness, those that looked at
the serpent were healed, those that didn't died. So a way has been sent because
God loves us, we either turn towards what God offers because of His love for us
or not in which case you and I will reap what our lives call for in the Kingdom of
a Holy Good and Righteous God.

John 3: 14
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

@kellyjay said
The world has been condemned, that is the starting part with which we live.
Nothing about me sets me apart of the judgment of God. The only thing that
saves us is the grace of Jesus Christ not our thought process or how good we are.
I'm as wicked a sinner like everyone else, worse than some, better than others but
that doesn't matter the best of us are all still sinners, ...[text shortened]... derness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

So you are "saved" regardless of your "evil and wickedness". Do "deserve" punishment by eternal torment?

@fmf said
You won't make a moral argument about why people who don't believe the things you believe "deserve" to be tortured for eternity.

You keep skimming over the things I have said, not realizing I have already
answered your question. It isn't much different than what you have done in the
past, you take things said and twist them to make them mean what you want. You
don't just look at what is being said to you, so you misinterpret clear text by
twisting it in your head, you are also not alone in this practice.