The Eternal Son of God

@kellyjay said
You are being obtuse, it should be below you.

Perhaps it's his angle to be obtuse.


(The above geometry joke was brought to you courtesy of the Ghost).

@kellyjay said
You are being obtuse, it should be below you.

You won't make a moral argument about why people who don't believe the things you believe "deserve" to be tortured for eternity. You subscribe to what is perhaps the most depraved ideology ever dredged up from the demented dark depths of the human psyche ~ I think it is anyway ~ and here you are reciting dogma like a parrot, devoid of any moral reasoning, constantly ignoring the word "deserve", question after question. And you think it's me who is being obtuse?

@fmf said
Why does someone who doesn't believe all this stuff you are typing "deserve" to be punished?

Nothing I'm saying is that important, the truth of sin and consequences not what
we think about them, a Holy God not what we think about Him, those are going to
matter, again not what we think.

It isn't truth within me that is going to cause this, but reality's truth, where we live
and move, not what we think. What I or you think is going is not going to cause or
change these things in being different that what is coming, but the judgment of a
living God who has created it all will. Not a god we create in our minds, but one
who formed us all in our mother's wombs.

@kellyjay said
Nothing I'm saying is that important, the truth of sin and consequences not what
we think about them, a Holy God not what we think about Him, those are going to
matter, again not what we think.

It isn't truth within me that is going to cause this, but reality's truth, where we live
and move, not what we think. What I or you think is going to not going to cause or
chan ...[text shortened]... ted it all will. Not a god we create in our minds, but one
who formed us all in our mother's wombs.

The question was this: Why does someone who doesn't believe all this stuff you are typing deserve to be punished?

The key word is DESERVE.

It's a question about your moral reasoning.

I think I know full well why you ignore the word post after post after post.

@kellyjay said
It isn't truth within me that is going to cause this, but reality's truth, where we live
and move, not what we think. What I or you think is going to not going to cause or
change these things in being different that what is coming, but the judgment of a
living God who has created it all will. Not a god we create in our minds, but one
who formed us all in our mother's wombs.

I am going to die in ten or twenty years' time. That will be the end of me. You assure me I am going to be tortured as a punishment for not having the same religious beliefs as you. Why would I DESERVE that, morally speaking, in your view?

@fmf said
You won't make a moral argument about why people who don't believe the things you believe "deserve" to be tortured for eternity. You subscribe to what is perhaps the most depraved ideology ever dredged up from the demented dark depths of the human psyche ~ I think it is anyway ~ and here you are reciting dogma like a parrot, devoid of any moral reasoning, constantly ignoring the word "deserve", question after question. And you think it's me who is being obtuse?

Two things, for one you don't even see the evil and wickedness of man. Neither do
you see the goodness of God or understand the ramifications as He does.

One sin was all it took to destroy the whole human race, it is so corrupt now the
hate, killing, abortions, rapes, murders are common place. Your lack of
understanding I would have to lay at the limited small mindedness of your belief
system where all good and bad are just as you see it. You call all beliefs realities of
the mind and suggest they are all equal yet you call some depraved, if all were
equal that could not be the case. Instead it is again your personal choice, but
God's personal choice is the only one that matters! When He calls something
depraved it is with the full knowledge of all time, space, and knowledge of all
consequences. You may find something He hates to be lovely never realizing
where you stand before God who is the final judge. And judgment day nothing will
remain hidden, every choice, action, inaction, word uttered, or when we remained
silent are all going to be on full display. We will be naked before the universe on
that day with no where to hide, and no excuses, then will judgment begin.

Put you head in the sand if you want, your mind isn't reality, it will not save you
or keep you from the truth when it calls into question every judgment you have
made.

@fmf said
I am going to die in ten or twenty years' time. That will be the end of me. You assure me I am going to be tortured as a punishment for not having the same religious beliefs as you. Why would I DESERVE that, morally speaking, in your view?

You are not promised tomorrow, another place you and reality might disagree.

@fmf said
I am going to die in ten or twenty years' time. That will be the end of me. You assure me I am going to be tortured as a punishment for not having the same religious beliefs as you. Why would I DESERVE that, morally speaking, in your view?

You keep misrepresenting the things I have said, that is not going to stop you from
the fate that awaits us all.

@kellyjay said
Two things, for one you don't even see the evil and wickedness of man. Neither do
you see the goodness of God or understand the ramifications as He does.

One sin was all it took to destroy the whole human race, it is so corrupt now the
hate, killing, abortions, rapes, murders are common place. Your lack of
understanding I would have to lay at the limited small mindedne ...[text shortened]... not save you
or keep you from the truth when it calls into question every judgment you have
made.

Morally speaking, why would non-Christians "deserve" to be tortured for eternity? And what would be the purpose of such punishment be?

@kellyjay said
You are not promised tomorrow, another place you and reality might disagree.

You're not making a moral argument.

@kellyjay said
You keep misrepresenting the things I have said, that is not going to stop you from
the fate that awaits us all.

You are running away from the word "deserve".

@kellyjay said
you don't even see the evil and wickedness of man.

Don't I? What gave you this idea?

@fmf said
Morally speaking, why would non-Christians "deserve" to be tortured for eternity? And what would be the purpose of such punishment be?

You should read the posts when people respond to you. Asking a question about
something that was just answered leads me to think you don't bother, you just
like talking not digesting those replies you cause people to write.

@kellyjay said
One sin was all it took to destroy the whole human race, it is so corrupt now the
hate, killing, abortions, rapes, murders are common place.

But you believe that corruptors, abortionists, rapists, and murderers can go to "Heaven" though, don't you?

@kellyjay said
You should read the posts when people respond to you. Asking a question about
something that was just answered leads me to think you don't bother, you just
like talking not digesting those replies you cause people to write.

Use the word "deserve" in an answer.