@sonship saidNot going to change my mind and if I feel like responding to something he said I will. It doesn’t mean I have to engage with him.
Kelly, if you do feel to put this guy on some "ignore list" don't let him taunt you into changing your mind.
Couple of guys here think they are indispensable to discussion to the Forum.
They are not.
They can talk among themselves whatever they wish.
The Forum can function without catering to them.
Jesus Christ position in God is eternal, among us who are now among His family
He has the position of first born, it is one of rights. I agree with You while Jesus
took on our life His titles were altered changed in a time since because we have
not always been around so He could not be eternally many things that relate to
us eternally. Being the only begotten was always true, first born could only occur
when there were others. Unlike our lives we were made, He begotten eternally so
that through Him all things that were made were made through Him.
I understand that the idea of an eternally generated offspring is controversial.
I mean "How could God forever have begotten a Son?"
I want to take some time to look into church history about this.
I think this last paragraph to me, I thought, showed some sensitivity to some issues which are important.
That is as God works out His salvation plan certain statuses of the Son of God are unfolded or shall I say, additionally taken on.
I read your post slowly and carefully a number of times. Maybe I'll have additional input to the exchange latter.
One thing I think I have noticed - What God IS in His nature seems cannot be separated from what God does in the working out of His eternal purpose.
I cannot understand very well the triune nature of God much apart from His move to carry out joining to man, imparting Himself into man, and building His people up into a corporate manifestation of the union of divinity and humanity.
If anyone has spoken well about what God is completely apart from His eternal purpose, I have never seen it.
