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    14 Feb '18 10:39
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Are you trying to peg me? "Psssssss"
    Not trying to “peg you” (whatever that means; can say I’m not trying to do it because I suspect it’s something bad.)

    Was a sincere question.
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    14 Feb '18 11:38
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    You didn't account for the possibility that all works, especially when contemplated in the context of salvation, appear self-serving.

    The prerequisite for a work to be good is to be completely detached and personless before the work.

    Thus, a full acknowledgement that you are a total sinner, and that any work rendered in any context other than empt ...[text shortened]... lly sustained? Of couese not.

    Thus: no man does good works and never sins as in Ecclesiastes.
    Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand,
    Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom
    prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat:
    I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:
    I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
    Naked, and ye clothed me:
    I was sick, and ye visited me:
    I was in prison, and ye came unto me
    .(Matthew 25:34-36 KJV)


    I guess Jesus needs to read Ecclesiastes.
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    14 Feb '18 12:10
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand,
    Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom
    prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat:
    I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:
    I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
    Naked, and ye clothed me:
    I was sick, and ye visited me:
    I was in pr ...[text shortened]... n, and ye came unto me
    .(Matthew 25:34-36 KJV)


    I guess Jesus needs to read Ecclesiastes.
    Those are all manifestations of the fruit of the Holy Spirit and outward evidence that a man or woman is saved.

    You still won’t address (among many other things) if a person who accepts Christ but dies a very short time later (such as the thief on the cross next to Jesus) and before they had the opportunity to do any good works is saved and will inherit eternal life.
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    14 Feb '18 12:12
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    Those are all manifestations of the fruit of the Holy Spirit and outward evidence that a man or woman is saved.

    You still won’t address (among many other things) if a person who accepts Christ but dies a very short time later (such as the thief on the cross next to Jesus) and before they had the opportunity to do any good works is saved and will inherit eternal life.
    Jesus said no such thing.
    You are on your own there and not of Christ.
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    14 Feb '18 12:38
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Jesus said no such thing.
    You are on your own there and not of Christ.
    There you go again with your substance-less trolling.

    And there you go again, not addressing questions that expose your doctrines as false and reveal your antipathy to Christ and what He did for you.

    Your good works won’t get you to heaven or make you righteous (in right standing with God,) chest puffer. Only belief in Jesus Christ can do that.

    Your ego and pride are your biggest stumbling blocks in your walk with Christ.
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    14 Feb '18 12:44
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    Oh geez, man, this is easily fixed by simply knowing the general belief that Christians have on the worth of works by themselves, the philosophy of the Jewish law, etc..

    Ecclesiastes 7:20: "There is no man on the earth who does good and never sins."

    There is also the belief that any work we do can be shifted towards self-beneficial and self-aggrand ...[text shortened]... Bible before you try to contextualize this passage or you run the risk of it just not matching.
    'These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God.'


    Sheesh, even his naked drunkenness was blamed on his son.
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    14 Feb '18 17:47
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Build channels , consider my OP's of late as a starter
    Totally doable and def encouraging.

    Working on it!
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    14 Feb '18 19:541 edit
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    is “love your neighbor as yourself” not a plump enough cherry for you?


    (As an aside, I make a very good cherry pie. Recipe available upon request).
    No, even this second commandment is inferior to the first, and greatest, commandment: "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."

    "On these TWO commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
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    14 Feb '18 19:56
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    No, even this second commandment is inferior to the first, and greatest, commandment: "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."
    In your mind what exactly does that entail?
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    14 Feb '18 20:02
    Originally posted by @fmf
    My point exactly. Have you not been able to discern what this exchange of posts is about?
    Have you?
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    14 Feb '18 21:23
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    No, even this second commandment is inferior to the first, and greatest, commandment: "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."

    "On these TWO commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
    Well hang on there sister, you missed out quite an important part after, ' This is the first and great commandment,' .....and it goes:

    'And the second is like unto it.'

    In other words, the 2nd is the same as the 1st. It is not inferior to it as you suggest.
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    15 Feb '18 01:561 edit
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Well hang on there sister, you missed out quite an important part after, ' This is the first and great commandment,' .....and it goes:

    'And the second is like unto it.'

    In other words, the 2nd is the same as the 1st. It is not inferior to it as you suggest.
    'Like unto it' is not the same as 'same as'.

    One was called greatest for a reason.

    And the two together are what all the law and prophets 'hang on'.
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    15 Feb '18 03:25
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    Not trying to “peg you” (whatever that means; can say I’m not trying to do it because I suspect it’s something bad.)

    Was a sincere question.
    Its just an avatar and "Pssss" is the sound I make when engaging demons
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    15 Feb '18 03:33
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    Totally doable and def encouraging.

    Working on it!
    Work on new things. Anything practicle. Do a good job . If ever questioned you will Know what to say. It will flow from you . You become co- creator of the greater Narrative and your rest will be blissful. I guaranree it
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    15 Feb '18 12:10
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Work on new things. Anything practicle. Do a good job . If ever questioned you will Know what to say. It will flow from you . You become co- creator of the greater Narrative and your rest will be blissful. I guaranree it
    I like the way you think.
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