22 Jun '18 10:01>
Originally posted by @divegeesterThe doctrine isn't mine it comes straight out of scripture, it isn't something I made up so
Your version of Jesus is monster because he tortures billions with flames while deliberately keeping them alive for eternity. Defend it if you can...
All the rest of your “my god is holy” rhetoric is meaningless waffle and obfuscation in the contex of my statement about apocalyptic eternal torture.
that it belongs to me as mine! This isn't a truth according to KellyJay so it only applies to
just me! God has done much due to His love to save us, and you belittle the one who has
tried to save our souls, because you dislike the end result of evil. You should let that sink
in, it is His Kingdom He didn't have to save us, He doesn't have to allow us to walk out
our lives in rebellion to Him and allow us to go on living as sinners, but He does. To save
the lost, Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels, but in our sin our rebellion we too
will end up there due to the evil of our sins before a Holy, Just, Righteous, Loving God
and each other.
I'm not defending anything, I take no pleasure in Hell, and from what I've read neither does
God; however, that is the end result of evil for beings who are going to live forever in one
state or another. Keeping alive just to suffer no, but because of the evil against God and
man those who fail to turn from evil towards God to be saved, that fate is already waiting
for all who are outside of God's grace. Again, not a defense but a shout out of the danger
that sinners before a Holy God find themselves, the flesh is against the Spirit, and the
Spirit against the flesh only through Jesus Christ is this fate avoided.
Not liking Hell does not change anything about the reality of it or not. The bar for evil
is one sin, even calling someone a fool is enough to put you in danger of Hell, a life time
of evil deeds, thoughts, and inactions will be weighed against unblemished love. We
are all in our natural state unworthy of God, and again because He has reached out to
save us do we have the chance to avoid the fate our lives call for, due to the evil we
have done. So you call the One trying to save your soul a monster, because your sins
have before Him put you in a place of danger you dislike, I suggest the monsters are the
one who would love their sins more than God, who has blessed us in this life with all we
have and given us a great many gifts along the way, who has seen our needs and give
all that He has to save us, for those who still rebel against Him, their fate can only be
changed due to His love, not their own self-righteous efforts. Defend yourself before the
Holy God, you will get the chance face to face, for your sake I hope it is while you are
under the blood of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins due to His love for you
and not your puffed up self-righteousness before a Holy God.