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I created a thread a while ago about how I felt God (or at least 'the idea' of God) was holding us back as a species.
I'll happily concede that faith gives strength, comfort and hope to those who have it, but such a reliance on a divine force to 'lift us up' seriously impedes our shared human enterprise of 'rising up' of our own accord.
How much faster would we have progressed as a species without God holding us back?
09 Mar 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeAs “God” doesn’t exist [sic] your question is mute, as it is only ourselves and our imaginations holding us back. Any attack on “God” is therefore an attack on ourselves.
I created a thread a while ago about how I felt God (or at least 'the idea' of God) was holding us back as a species.
I'll happily concede that faith gives strength, comfort and hope to those who have it, but such a reliance on a divine force to 'lift us up' seriously impedes our shared human enterprise of 'rising up' of our own accord.
How much faster would we have progressed as a species without God holding us back?
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09 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterWell to be fair, it's an attack on 'those humans' who have wasted energy on such a non-existent deity, energy they could have re-directed more productively to advanced the human race as a whole.
As “God” doesn’t exist [sic] your question is mute, as it is only ourselves and our imaginations holding us back. Any attack on “God” is therefore an attack on ourselves.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeJust one important question:
Well to be fair, it's an attack on 'those humans' who have wasted energy on such a non-existent deity, energy they could have re-directed more productively to advanced the human race as a whole.
If the Gospel were true would you become a Christian?
Yes?
No?
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Originally posted by @sonshipYes.
Just one important question:
If the Gospel were true would you become a Christian?
Yes?
No?
Proceed with your point. (And OP relevance).
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYou answered my question and I have no other point.
Yes.
Proceed with your point. (And OP relevance).
You would give your life to the Lord Jesus is you could be persuaded that the Gospel message is truth.
What more could I ask?
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To the OP.
I think the point God has made to us is that we STARTED ... STARTED with the assumption that we could outgrow God.
Adam and Eve clearly got it into their heads that human beings could outgrow any need for God. The rest is history.
However, I do find it fascinating that God alloted human kind eons to see how he could do. And in the process many many things man discovered, made, erected, developed which indeed did show that man had something intrinsically marvelous in his makeup.
I don't think we will ever be able to tell God that we didn't have a chance to give it our best shot.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeDo you have some statistical evidence on how theists have contributed to advancing civilisation vs atheists have contributed to advancing civilisation?
Well to be fair, it's an attack on 'those humans' who have wasted energy on such a non-existent deity, energy they could have re-directed more productively to advanced the human race as a whole.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
I created a thread a while ago about how I felt God (or at least 'the idea' of God) was holding us back as a species.
I'll happily concede that faith gives strength, comfort and hope to those who have it, but such a reliance on a divine force to 'lift us up' seriously impedes our shared human enterprise of 'rising up' of our own accord.
How much faster would we have progressed as a species without God holding us back?
How much faster would we have progressed as a species without God holding us back?
Another question:
Could you have advanced much further had your mother not held you back from, let's say, the moment you were conceived in her womb? I mean, at least she slowed you down for about nine months.
Wouldn't you be further along had she not interfered?
09 Mar 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelWhat do you mean by “gospel”?
Gospel is true in my universe , no need to peg myself as Christian
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeGod does not hold back anyone. Peoples false interpretation of who and what God is and what is required of them is the problem. Using the Bible stories as examples, the people in there who believed in God were the most industrious, hardworking and progressive people. Those people had it right God was with them and they worked hard.
I created a thread a while ago about how I felt God (or at least 'the idea' of God) was holding us back as a species.
I'll happily concede that faith gives strength, comfort and hope to those who have it, but such a reliance on a divine force to 'lift us up' seriously impedes our shared human enterprise of 'rising up' of our own accord.
How much faster would we have progressed as a species without God holding us back?
Unfortunately there came a new breed of God-fearing people in recent times who are led astray by false doctrines. These are the do-nothing I have the Holy Spirit and Im saved, kind of people. These are the types of people who sit on their laurels waiting and hoping for the world to end.
God likes the first type. The second type will be cast into the lake of fire.
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09 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterNo.
Do you have some statistical evidence on how theists have contributed to advancing civilisation vs atheists have contributed to advancing civilisation?
Point is, if God doesn't exist (and I don't believe He does) then generation after generation of theists have wasted time poring over religious texts and the like, distracting them from more productive uses of their time.
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09 Mar 18
Originally posted by @sonshipYou can do better than this sonship.How much faster would we have progressed as a species without God holding us back?
Another question:
Could you have advanced much further had your mother not held you back from, let's say, the moment you were conceived in her womb? I mean, at least she slowed you down for about nine months.
Wouldn't you be further along had she not interfered?
When I log in tomorrow I expect a better question.
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09 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterThe often reffered to but mostly misunderstood one
What do you mean by “gospel”?