The JW dillema

Originally posted by galveston75
Blah, blah, blah and more blah, blah, blah and no doubt more blah, blah, blah to come!!!!!!

If I do not join the JW organisation, will I be precluded from gaining access to eternal life?

Originally posted by divegeester
If I do not join the JW organisation, will I be precluded from gaining access to eternal life?

access to eternal life, what does the Bible say about those who will gain access to eternal life, do tell?

1. That those those are evangelising (calling upon Gods name) are the ones that will be saved - Joel 2:32 and Acts 2:21
2. That those who have endured to the end - Matt 10:22
3. Those who are DOING the will of God - Matt 7:21
4. Those who are taking in knowledge of God and of Christ - John 17:3
5. Those that love Christ more than immediate family - Matt 19:29
6. Those who are hospitable to Christ's brothers - Matt 25:46
7. Those who have given up material wealth to dedicate themselves to Gods Kingdom - Mark 10:30
8. Those that exercise faith in the ransom sacrifice of Christ - John 3:16
9. Those that obey Christ's teachings - John 3:36
10.Those that are teaching and preaching in the great harvest - John 4:36
11. Those who are rightly disposed - Acts 13:48
12. Those who are not contentious - Romans 2:6
13. Those who are sowing with a view to the spirit - Galatians 6:8
14. Those who are prepared to make a public declaration of their faith - 1 Timothy 6:12
15. Those who believe Gods promises - 1 John 2:25
16. Those who are not manslayers or who hate their brothers - 1 John 3:15
17. Those who are in Gods love - Jude 21
18. The righteous - Psalm 37:19
19: The meek - Pslam 37:11

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
access to eternal life, what does the Bible say about those who will gain access to eternal life, do tell?

1. That those those are evangelising (calling upon Gods name) are the ones that will be saved - Joel 2:32 and Acts 2:21
2. That those who have endured to the end - Matt 10:22
3. Those who are DOING the will of God - Matt 7:21
4. Those who ...[text shortened]... se who are in Gods love - Jude 21
18. The righteous - Psalm 37:19
19: The meek - Pslam 37:11

Number 19 counts you out then.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
access to eternal life, what does the Bible say about those who will gain access to eternal life, do tell?

1. That those those are evangelising (calling upon Gods name) are the ones that will be saved - Joel 2:32 and Acts 2:21
2. That those who have endured to the end - Matt 10:22
3. Those who are DOING the will of God - Matt 7:21
4. Those who se who are in Gods love - Jude 21
18. The righteous - Psalm 37:19
19: The meek - Pslam 37:11

Yes yes we all know about these indicators and conditions or evidences.

But does your organisation state that those who are not members of the JW organisation will be precluded from eternal life?

Does it robbie...?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Number 19 counts you out then.

bwahahaha, God is not finished with us yet Noobster, i expect to see you there, don't be late! a couple of changes to your life style and you'll be there.

Originally posted by divegeester
Yes yes we all know about these indicators and conditions or evidences.

But does your organisation state that those who are not members of the JW organisation will be precluded from eternal life?

Does it robbie...?

evaluate it for yourself whether we fulfil these criteria, i think that we do. In fact through a process of elimination, i think that we are the only organisation that fulfils this criteria.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
evaluate it for yourself whether we fulfil these criteria, i think that we do.

Whether or not you or anyone else in your organisation individually or as a collective meet these criteria is not in question. What is in question is whether or not the free gift of eternal life which you have stated is your belief, is accessible to anyone who is not a member of the JW organisation?

Originally posted by divegeester
Whether or not you or anyone else in your organisation individually or as a collective meet these criteria is not in question. What is in question is whether or not the free gift of eternal life which you have stated is your belief, is accessible to anyone who is not a member of the JW organisation?

yes it is, its the biblical criteria for gaining everlasting life, what are you talking about? sorry its the best i can do, i have provided a biblical basis for those who will see salvation, I have tried to appeal to reason there is nothing left for me to do. I have stated that i think we are the only organisation that fulfils all the criteria necessary for gaining everlasting life, if you know of any others let me know.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes it is, its the biblical criteria for gaining everlasting life, what are you talking about? sorry its the best i can do, i have provided a biblical basis for those who will see salvation, I have tried to appeal to reason there is nothing left for me to do. I have stated that i think we are the only organisation that fulfils all the criteria necessary for gaining everlasting life, if you know of any others let me know.

No you are deflecting and obfuscating again.

I'm not interested in whether or not your organisation thinks it is the only one meeting some requirements. Will an individual who is not a member of your organisation be precluded from eternal life?

Will they robbie?

Originally posted by divegeester
No you are deflecting and obfuscating again.

I'm not interested in whether or not your organisation thinks it is the only one meeting some requirements. Will an individual who is not a member of your organisation be precluded from eternal life?

Will they robbie?

I have demonstrated to you Biblically who will see life, i dont think anyone who is not a member of Jehovahs witness will see life unless by Gods grace and mercy, why, because we are the only ones fulfilling this criteria. Its simple and painfully obvious, too bad for you.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
bwahahaha, God is not finished with us yet Noobster, i expect to see you there, don't be late! a couple of changes to your life style and you'll be there.

A couple of changes?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
A couple of changes?

ok, well, quite a lot, in fact a complete metamorphosis, but it can be done.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, well, quite a lot, in fact a complete metamorphosis, but it can be done.

It ain't gonna happen, I'm not going over to the darkside.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
It ain't gonna happen.

dude, with God, all things are possible. The darkside, hehe, you are the emperor of the dark side.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have demonstrated to you Biblically who will see life, i dont think anyone who is not a member of Jehovahs witness will see life unless by Gods grace and mercy, why, because we are the only ones fulfilling this criteria. Its simple and painfully obvious, too bad for you.

Lol. Is he really that slow? He can't see the answer even though you've answered at least twice here and he is still not able to understand it. Wow!!!!!