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Originally posted by Proper KnobIT MAKES SENSE WHEN ONE MEETS GOD.
What a tangled web.
On the one hand the verse from Matthew quite clearly states that only the 'Father' is to be worshiped, and yet Isaiah 9:6 quite clearly states that Jesus is the 'Father'. No one wonder no one can agree, it doesn't make any sense. 😞
When one takes INTO him this Holy Spirit it makes sense because ultimately that BIBLE is for the purpose of bringing people into the EXPERIENCE of God and the enjoyment of God.
You don't know what I'm talking about do you ?
The Bible seems to have a FILTER to FILTER out the PROUD ones who trust in their own minds.
Huh ?? You didn't notice ?
"At that time Jesus said, I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. " (Matt. 11:15)
The Son and the Father are distinct. The Son and the Father are not separate. And when we experience Him through repentance and receiving Him the Triune God becomes the realm in which we live.
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Originally posted by sonshipWhy are you condemning us, we are simply trying to reconcile the passages and you are saying that we are too proud to understand,
IT MAKES SENSE WHEN ONE MEETS GOD.
When one takes INTO him this Holy Spirit it makes sense because ultimately that BIBLE is for the purpose of bringing people into the EXPERICENCE of God.
The Bible seems to have a FILTER to FILTER out the PROUD ones who trust in their own minds.
Huh ?? You didn't notice ?
[b]"At that time Jesus said, "I p ...[text shortened]... e Him through repentance and receiving Him the Triune God becomes the realm in which we live.
wow Jesus, thanks.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe last post was addressed to Proper Knob.
Why are you condemning us, we are simply trying to reconcile the passages and you are saying that we are too proud to understand,
wow Jesus, thanks.
You are not reconciling word.
You are using one set of passages to say that the OTHER set of passages do not mean what they say.
So - "The Father is greater than I " is then used by your theology to say that the Son given to be called Eternal Father cannot be true.
Go your way. Some of us will believe both. God has uttered both.
And the Triune God is not in the Bible so that men may have a doctrine.
It is that the mystery of godliness - He who was manifested in the flesh may be experienced and enjoyed.
"Christ, the mystery of God" is not the utterance of any council. It is the pure word of the New Testament.
The mystery of God - CHRIST
[1 Cor 2:7,8] But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
•[Eph 3:3,4] How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
•[Rom 16:25] Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
•[Col 4:3] Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:
•[Eph 5:32] This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
•[Col 1:26,27] Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Originally posted by sonshipYou don't know what I'm talking about do you ?
IT MAKES SENSE WHEN ONE MEETS GOD.
When one takes INTO him this Holy Spirit it makes sense because ultimately that BIBLE is for the purpose of bringing people into the EXPERIENCE of God and the enjoyment of God.
You don't know what I'm talking about do you ?
The Bible seems to have a FILTER to FILTER out the PROUD ones who trust in their own min ...[text shortened]... Him through repentance and receiving Him the Triune God becomes the realm in which we live.
Not really. I don't think anyone does.
Originally posted by RJHindsNo, I have just consumed a rather delicious rajma. On another occasion though, sirloin would be a good choice! Not well done though, rare would be better.
The Instuctor is leaving now to go to a restaurant and order a well-done sirloin steak, baked potato with sour cream and butter, and a garden salad.
Doesn't that make you hungry?
The Instructor
Originally posted by Proper KnobA good prayer to pray is "Dear God, please if you are hiding the things about the Son of God from me for any reason, I ask that you would no longer hide them from me."
[b]You don't know what I'm talking about do you ?
Not really. I don't think anyone does.[/b]
Look at this passage:
At that time Jesus answered and said, I extol You, Father, Lord of heaven and of earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants.
Yes, Father, for this it has been well-pleasing in Your sight.
All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and him to whom the Son wills to reveal Him." ( Matt. 11:25-27)
This passage begins with the words "At that time Jesus answered ...". But we may ask who or what was He answering? Who asked of Him a question?
The context is the rejection of Jesus by many stubborn and unrepentant places and people. Perhaps the question was put to the Son of God by the Father -
Ie. "Son, how do You feel about all these people refusing to believe in You? How do you take this rejection from all these places - renown places of reputation?"
Then perhaps that is why it says "At that time Jesus answered ..."
And He answered with thanksgiving. The Father has hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and has revealed them who are willing to enter into the kingdom of God as a little child.
A humbled attitude would ask God to reveal the truth to them, no longer allow their self pride or trust in their own intelligence to possibly obscure the shining of God's revelation about the Son of God into their hearts.
- The corrected one
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Originally posted by sonship"At that time Jesus said, I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. " (Actually Matt. 11:25)
IT MAKES SENSE WHEN ONE MEETS GOD.
When one takes INTO him this Holy Spirit it makes sense because ultimately that BIBLE is for the purpose of bringing people into the EXPERIENCE of God and the enjoyment of God.
You don't know what I'm talking about do you ?
The Bible seems to have a FILTER to FILTER out the PROUD ones who trust in their own min Him through repentance and receiving Him the Triune God becomes the realm in which we live.
Great! So this reward of eternal life only goes to the gullible and simple-minded eh? Does it not give you pause for thought when you realise that your scripture is deliberately targeted at those less able to employ logic and reason?
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatI am more concerned with the attempt to utilise the scripture as some kind of justification for the truth claim, namely that sonships understanding is the absolutely correct one and that if you do not agree with his exegesis, then you are obviously far too proud to get it.
[b]"At that time Jesus said, I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. " (Actually Matt. 11:25)
Great! So this reward of eternal life only goes to the gullible and simple-minded eh? Does it not give you pause for thought when you realise that your scripture is deliberately targeted at those less able to employ logic and reason?[/b]
Its a shocking misuse of scripture and if he does not make a recantation I may be forced to hand him over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh along with R J Hinds for eating meat.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat, you don't eat haggis then? Why would a man choose a religion which bans haggis and bacon?
I am more concerned with the attempt to utilise the scripture as some kind of justification for the truth claim, namely that sonships understanding is the absolutely correct one and that if you do not agree with his exegesis, then you are obviously far too proud to get it.
Its a shocking misuse of scripture and if he does not make a recantation ...[text shortened]... to hand him over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh along with R J Hinds for eating meat.
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatOh its not banned, Christians have the freedom to eat meat, I simply choose not to as eating meat makes me feel sick, I dont know why. Anyhow, vegetarian haggis is much tastier than non vegetarian haggis, bacon is overrated and black pudding is grotesque. Potato scones are the biz!
What, you don't eat haggis then? Why would a man choose a religion which bans haggis and bacon?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh dear, I hadn't realised quite how much of a nutter you are. Vegetarian haggis! Oh my sides.
Oh its not banned, Christians have the freedom to eat meat, I simply choose not to as eating meat makes me feel sick, I dont know why. Anyhow, vegetarian haggis is much tastier than non vegetarian haggis, bacon is overrated and black pudding is grotesque. Potato scones are the biz!