Originally posted by Great King RatIf you do not have an objective standard of morality by which you can determine what is right or wrong, then should anyone adhere to your subjective moral standard of what is right and wrong? Yes or No?
We had just come to the conclusion that my morality is subjective. Scroll a bunch of posts up. Why are you now going back to morality being objective?
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkNo, no-one should adhere to another person's moral standard. If you choose to commit an act that breaks another person's or society's moral standard - for example murder - you should however expect to face consequences.
If you do not have an objective standard of morality by which you can determine what is right or wrong, then should anyone adhere to your subjective moral standard of what is right and wrong? Yes or No?
I'm getting a bit bored, Fetchy. I've answered a lot of your silly questions. I'm going to have to ask you to present your amazing evidence now.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkBecause I am not as stupid as you nor in denial.
How do you know that 'christian atheism' is not a fictional religion that is intended to be so?
Do you find their beliefs compelling or do you know anyone that does?
No, I do not find their beliefs compelling. But then I don't find Hindu beliefs compelling, but that isn't a reason to deny the existence of Hindu's.
Actually I don't lack belief in God, you do.
Your behaviour says otherwise.
Originally posted by apathistOr God's is in the scriptures, and men who wish to throw off God's rule only want to do away
Little kids are told what to do. Grown-ups do the telling.
Grown-ups can be wrong, though. The elephant in the room is the Bible. It was written by men, with an agenda.
Freethought! Tackle the mysteries without shackles.
with the shackles of being in a place where they are not in complete control.
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Originally posted by Great King RatIf society determines what is right and wrong, then are the morals derived from society obligatory to all members of society? You should see where I am going with this.
No, no-one should adhere to another person's moral standard. If you choose to commit an act that breaks another person's or society's moral standard - for example murder - you should however expect to face consequences.
I'm getting a bit bored, Fetchy. I've answered a lot of your silly questions. I'm going to have to ask you to present your amazing evidence now.
Originally posted by twhiteheadPeople call themselves any number of things, but this plainly does not "make it so".
You are in denial. It is a fact that there are a large number of people who call themselves Christian who do not believe in God. Deny it all you want, its not going to change the facts and it will only make you look the fool.
Is anything true just because someone says it is?
I'm sure there is someone, somewhere who says he is the reincarnation of Winston Churchill. It does not mean that he is actually the reincarnation of Winston Churchill.
Calling oneself a Christian without following the tenets of Christianity does not make oneself a Christian. Let me ask you this: Do you think that there are any atheists who believe in God? I am going to take a wild shot in the dark here and say no.