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Originally posted by snowinscotlandI guess I wasn't thinking of there being something beyond truth. Just that there may be a source for the delusions that keeps one from seeing the truth.
what is there beyond truth?
For example, I've worked with a number of people over the years that thought they excelled at their job, but objectively they were really poor performers. Somehow they were able to consistently delude themselves into thinking they were much better than they were.
Also what do you think of the idea of being freed from one's nature to sin?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneTake a careful look at those who make a living from religion. And take a very careful look (if you have to) at what they say.
Do you object to religions because you see them as having unsound principles or because their practicioners do such a poor job following the principles?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneReligion is a way of one individual or group having dominion over another. The very fact that it's based on, hmmm, unsound data, only serves to make it worse. It's bad enough to delude yourself, but the systematic deluding of others (including members of the clergy itself) for ones own personal gain (irrespective of whether the individual who instigated the con is still alive or not) just serves to make it worse.
Do you object to religions because you see them as having unsound principles or because their practicioners do such a poor job following the principles?
Originally posted by scottishinnzPerhaps that is what most if not all religions have become. But what do you see as unsound?
Religion is a way of one individual or group having dominion over another. The very fact that it's based on, hmmm, unsound data, only serves to make it worse. It's bad enough to delude yourself, but the systematic deluding of others (including members of the clergy itself) for ones own personal gain (irrespective of whether the individual who instigated the con is still alive or not) just serves to make it worse.