Originally posted by robbie carrobieare you saying you cannot discern if people are overweight or not?
what is overweight? Perhaps i should carry a chart and a tape measure to ascertain their height, ask their age and look up my chart and pronounce them overweight. Its a congregation not a slimming club.
Originally posted by stellspalfieas a man of science I am interested in measurement, in order for me to tell if they are truly over weight i would need to weigh them, unless of course they were so overweight as to be dangerously so, even then good tailoring or loose fitting garments can be deceptive.
are you saying you cannot discern if people are overweight or not?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieas a man of science are you familiar with the word 'estimate'?
as a man of science I am interested in measurement, in order for me to tell if they are truly over weight i would need to weigh them, unless of course they were so overweight as to be dangerously so, even then good tailoring or loose fitting garments can be deceptive.
what tools do you use to ascertain the difference between homo and hetro - sexual?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo basically those people who are obese, like yourself, who's status is 'contrary to nature and the word of God' get off without reproach.
as a man of science I am interested in measurement, in order for me to tell if they are truly over weight i would need to weigh them, unless of course they were so overweight as to be dangerously so, even then good tailoring or loose fitting garments can be deceptive.
Originally posted by Proper KnobI think this is covered in Matthew 7:5.
So basically those people who are obese, like yourself, who's status is 'contrary to nature and the word of God' get off without reproach.
"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." -- Matthew 7:5, KJV
Except the beam becomes acceptable to some.
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Originally posted by Proper Knobonce again unless you can demonstrate why they should be reproached (regardless of what I have said) then all your whinging and all your assertions are to no avail. Let me know when you can. So far, nada!
So basically those people who are obese, like yourself, who's status is 'contrary to nature and the word of God' get off without reproach.
Originally posted by SuzianneMe thinketh Dee Dee that thee is a total airhead and I hadeth it in mindeth too cut thee some slacketh and though goeth and doeth this abomination,
I think this is covered in Matthew 7:5.
"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." -- Matthew 7:5, KJV
she who is without sineth casteth the first stone.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThere is no whinging here, but I understand completely why you want to make this about me. It can't be easy facing up to your spiritual and moral failings on this forum, but I'm sorry fatboy, it's time to man up and take your medicine. 🙂
once again unless you can demonstrate why they should be reproached (regardless of what I have said) then all your whinging and all your assertions are to no avail. Let me know when you can. So far, nada!
This quite frankly bizarre notion that I have to substantiate something which we already both agree on is nothing more than deflection. Deflection from the real issue here which is that obese people like yourself, who we both agree have become 'contrary to nature and the word of God, are beyond reproach.
So, to shut you up, I'll play your silly little game. Obesity is a 'defilement' of the body which is warned against in 2 Corinthians 7:1.
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Originally posted by Proper Knobat last, so how does obesity defile the body?
There is no whinging here, but I understand completely why you want to make this about me. It can't be easy facing up to your spiritual and moral failings on this forum, but I'm sorry fatboy, it's time to man up and take your medicine. 🙂
This quite frankly bizarre notion that I have to substantiate something which we already both agree on is nothing ...[text shortened]... little game. Obesity is a 'defilement' of the body which is warned against in 2 Corinthians 7:1.
Therefore, since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God. 2 Corinthians 7:1
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSigh, more deflection. But if it is the best you can do.
at last, so how does obesity defile the body?
Therefore, since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God. 2 Corinthians 7:1
high blood pressure (hypertension) – this is a major risk factor for developing a serious cardiovascular disease (conditions that can affect the circulation of blood around the body)
infertility
type 2 diabetes
many types of cancer
heart disease
stroke
asthma
osteoarthritis – a condition that affects the joints
back pain
depression
liver disease
kidney disease
sleep apnoea – a condition that causes interrupted breathing during sleep
gastro-oesophageal reflux disease
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Obesity/Pages/Complications.aspx
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHere's more -
at last, so how does obesity defile the body?
Therefore, since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God. 2 Corinthians 7:1
The major diseases associated with obesity are hypertension, atherosclerosis, and diabetes, as well as certain types of cancer. Less well-known complications include hepatic steatosis, gallbladder disease, pulmonary function impairment, endocrine abnormalities, obstetric complications, trauma to the weight-bearing joints, gout, cutaneous disease, proteinuria, increased hemoglobin concentration, and possibly immunologic impairment.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/4062125/