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Originally posted by sonshipHow does this answer make any sense in the context you used??????
[b]Exactly what "bandwagon" are you being asked to jump on?
1.) Bandwagon - There is pressure on militant homosexuals to secure for themselves respectability. It is beyond the point of being allowed or accepted to have same sex romance.
It is wanting government endorsement. Therefore the demand for tax dollars for homosexual marriage a ...[text shortened]... bandwagon increase chances of democratic majority rule in the exaltation of homosexuality.
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(Unless you are a militant homosexual)
Originally posted by sonship1. I would not be happy if my kids were pressured into
1 I don't think you would be happy, if without your counsel your kids were being pressured to be homosexuals. .............
2But if I were born a female, I would hope to thank God for that just as much. I chose not to go against the physiology of the body God designed for me.
making any decision on their sexuality!!
2. So if you were born with exactly the same desires you
have now (ie attracted to women) but had a woman's body
you would be happy for a man to penetrate you? That's OK?
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Originally posted by wolfgang59desires? pah, if you are attracted to women and you are a male is there not a limitation placed upon your desires? do you desire to make love to every attractive women that you meet? Do you act upon those desires? No then clearly there is a disparity that exists between your desires and they way you act, is there not? do these limitations cause you to feel psychological pressures? hardly, ok you may need to bite the pillow occasionally and exercise self control but you will hardly suffer any lasting irreparable harm as has been alleged. I see it as a reflection of an extreme form of mesim, pandering to the pampered self indulgent, its all about the individual, me, me me me me!
1. I would not be happy if my kids were pressured into
making any decision on their sexuality!!
2. So if you were born with exactly the same desires you
have now (ie attracted to women) but had a woman's body
you would be happy for a man to penetrate you? That's OK?
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Originally posted by wolfgang59there is extreme media and social pressure to accept an act which the Bible condemns, you can lose your job for goodness sake, the bandwagon that sonship refers to is just that, an acceptance of homosexual acts which is nothing more than an extreme form of peer pressure and the bandwagon is that upon which many have jumped. Caught in a dilemma between their religious convictions and the social stigma of defending scripture, many have folded. Indeed others like suzzianne actively promote homosexuality after abandoning scripture.
How does this answer make any sense in the context you used??????
(Unless you are a militant homosexual)
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMeism!
I see it as a reflection of an extreme form of mesim[sic], pandering to the pampered self indulgent, its all about the individual, me, me me me me!
I am happy for individuals to follow their own path.
You want to impose your values on others.
It's all about you
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHe has already described the bandwagon.
there is extreme media and social pressure to accept an act which the Bible condemns, you can lose your job for goodness sake, the bandwagon that sonship refers to is just that, an acceptance of homosexual acts which is nothing more than an extreme form of peer pressure and the bandwagon is that upon which many have jumped. Caught in a dilemma betwee ...[text shortened]... folded. Indeed others like suzzianne actively promote homosexuality after abandoning scripture.
Are you mind-reading now?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHaha, yes, I did. All the best, Robbie.
Wow i had some kind of premonition for i was thinking about you today and on that exhausting debate we had on the 'pasha' and i was wondering how you are, anyhow i do hope you are well and you visited your mom for New Year.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt might mean something if the bible was truly inspired by a real god.
there is extreme media and social pressure to accept an act which the Bible condemns, you can lose your job for goodness sake, the bandwagon that sonship refers to is just that, an acceptance of homosexual acts which is nothing more than an extreme form of peer pressure and the bandwagon is that upon which many have jumped. Caught in a dilemma betwee ...[text shortened]... folded. Indeed others like suzzianne actively promote homosexuality after abandoning scripture.
Since it is only the words of men, pithy sayings are meaningless in this day and age.
There is NOTHING you can say to prove ANYTHING in the bible came from a god.
I say again, when the bible says stuff like 'I am a jealous god' or a man is worth 50 shekels and a woman 30, words like that come 100% from MEN not gods.
Religious folk are pathologically naive about what a real god would be like but I am sure of one thing: It would not be "Jealous" and would not put men just so accidentally on top of the human totem pole, especially books written by mainly men. How CONVENIENT.
Your god is a bunch of men writing pithy sayings and nothing more.
And billions of people fall for it hook line and sinker. It's sad really. A sign the human race will die out before it truly gets mature as a species.
Originally posted by sonhouseso much negativity cannot be good for your Karma, you are bordering on bigotry, turning into the very thing that you hate! ouch!
It might mean something if the bible was truly inspired by a real god.
Since it is only the words of men, pithy sayings are meaningless in this day and age.
There is NOTHING you can say to prove ANYTHING in the bible came from a god.
I say again, when the bible says stuff like 'I am a jealous god' or a man is worth 50 shekels and a woman 30, words ...[text shortened]... r. It's sad really. A sign the human race will die out before it truly gets mature as a species.
Originally posted by wolfgang59How does this answer make any sense in the context you used??????
(Unless you are a militant homosexual)
The "bandwagon" is the very vocal activist push to enlarge numbers sympathetic to the gay cause for usually political benefits.
"Join the cause" is call of activism. In a democratic society we would expect nothing less.
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Originally posted by wolfgang59
1. I would not be happy if my kids were pressured into
making any decision on their sexuality!!
2. So if you were born with exactly the same desires you
have now (ie attracted to women) but had a woman's body
you would be happy for a man to penetrate you? That's OK?
1. I would not be happy if my kids were pressured into
making any decision on their sexuality!!
Happy with ANY decision on their sexuality ?
2. So if you were born with exactly the same desires you
have now (ie attracted to women) but had a woman's body
you would be happy for a man to penetrate you? That's OK?
I would wonder why I am designed for one thing yet have a craving for something I am not designed for.
I don't regard OK any and all urges that come into my mind.
I think in order to have civilization people have to be taught that just because you have an urge doesn't mean it is always OK to act upon it.
With something as powerful as sexual union, we cannot follow every urge. This could be likened to fire in a house. You need a fire place to properly contain this wonderful yet potentially destructive force of fire.
In the same way sexual union should be contained in the "fire place" of marriage - males with females, as our bodies are designed to complement each other.