Time Travel

@fmf said
Isn't Adam said to have lived for 930 years?

Yes

@kellyjay said
Did you lose the ability to read it yourself? It was a warning.

So, it was just a threat? Nothing was said about "evil" being passed down to future generations through sperms and eggs?

@kellyjay said
Do you have a point?

If you don't get my point, I don't mind.

@fmf said
Isn't Adam said to have lived for 930 years?

I expect to live another 10 or 15 years. I will fall short of Adam's good innings by approximately 860 years. Does that mean I am more "evil" than Adam was?

@fmf said
So, it was just a threat? Nothing was said about "evil" being passed down to future generations through sperms and eggs?

We are living creatures formed from the earth, which didn't give us life; it wasn't until God put life into us that we became alive. So our lives are in our bodies, we are not bodies with life, but living souls with bodies, and that which was from God within us that made us in His image became corrupted. We could have done anything before the fall, and our lives would have been just fine, except for one thing. Now things have been reversed; there is but one way back to God through Jesus Christ, and nothing else can accomplish that no matter what is said or done outside of Christ.

@kellyjay said
It became like a disease to us; not much difference between what a doctor knows about cancer and what the patient now knows once they have it.

In your analogy, does the doctor explain exactly what cancer is and what it's like to die from it when he tells his patients not to smoke [for example]?

@kellyjay said
We are living creatures formed from the earth, which didn't give us life; it wasn't until God put life into us that we became alive. So our lives are in our bodies, we are not bodies with life, but living souls with bodies, and that which was from God within us that made us in His image became corrupted. We could have done anything before the fall, and our lives would have b ...[text shortened]... Jesus Christ, and nothing else can accomplish that no matter what is said or done outside of Christ.

Yes, thank you, KellyJay, I am aware of your beliefs. But the question still remains: "What was the content of "God's warning"? Or was it merely a threat?"

@fmf said
I expect to live another 10 or 15 years. I will fall short of Adam's good innings by approximately 860 years. Does that mean I am more "evil" than Adam was?

God sets the time for us all.

@kellyjay said
God sets the time for us all.

Perhaps the point I was making - and the question snuggling therein - seemed to be a nettle that you are reluctant to grasp?

@fmf said
In your analogy, does the doctor explain exactly what cancer is and what it's like to die from it when he tells his patients not to smoke [for example]?

God said don’t they did, the fall occurred.

@fmf said
Perhaps the point I was making - and the question snuggling therein - seemed to be a nettle that you are reluctant to grasp?

Good things and bad things happen to all of us they are common to man, we are all guilty so being better someplace where no one is good isn’t anything to brag about. The worst of us and the best all fall short, both can be redeemed.

@kellyjay said
Good things and bad things happen to all of us they are common to man, we are all guilty so being better someplace where no one is good isn’t anything to brag about. The worst of us and the best all fall short, both can be redeemed.

So, is death not connected to evil? Is THAT the lesson learned from Adam's "death sentence" in the garden, for his "evil", followed by him living for 930 years?

@kellyjay said
God said don’t they did, the fall occurred.

Do you believe that God's "fairness" and "proportionality" in this Bible story were exemplary, as in tip-top, peak, learn-from-it, do-as-I-do, perfect morality?

@fmf said
Do you believe that God's "fairness" and "proportionality" in this Bible story were exemplary, as in tip-top, peak, learn-from-it, do-as-I-do, perfect morality?

It was simple fully understood and only through intent did it occur.

@kellyjay said
It was simple fully understood and only through intent did it occur.

Here's an analogy.

If a father said to his toddlers, do not look out of our upstairs front room window [of the townhouse he'd built for them] in order to watch the world go by.

And the toddlers asked why. What will happen?

And he said, never mind that: just don't do it.

If, on seeing that they had disobeyed him, and they had looked out of the upstairs window, he proceeded to burn their arms and their cheeks with lit cigarettes: would that be "fairness" and "justice"?