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I've been watching Dark, the German TV series, and now Picard series 2. Both feature time travel and ethical considerations.

Thought exercise:

Assuming the Garden of Eden allegory/account was literally true, would you consider going back in time to try and persuade Adam and Eve to resist the temptation [to consume the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil] by showing them evidence of the "fallen man" consequences in the intervening millennia?

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What....? You mean the snake wasn't really talking???

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@fmf said
I've been watching Dark, the German TV series, and now Picard series 2. Both feature time travel and ethical considerations.

Thought exercise:

Assuming the Garden of Eden allegory/account was literally true, would you consider going back in time to try and persuade Adam and Eve to resist the temptation [to consume the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil] by showing them evidence of the "fallen man" consequences in the intervening millennia?
The person doing that would of cource vanish in the instant they were succesful, as would their ancestors a few thousand years back I expect.

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If they didn't listen to God's warning, I think you'd find them no different than those who, after Jesus raised raise Lazarus from the dead, plotted to kill both Jesus and Lazarus. In that, they would still want what they want.

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@kellyjay said
@FMF
If they didn't listen to God's warning, I think you'd find them no different than those who, after Jesus raised raise Lazarus from the dead, plotted to kill both Jesus and Lazarus.
What was the content of "God's warning"? Or was it merely a threat?

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@kellyjay said
@FMF
I think you'd find them no different than those who, after Jesus raised raise Lazarus from the dead, plotted to kill both Jesus and Lazarus.
Stories about virgin births, resurrections, and miracles were very common back in ancient times. The Romans "killed" Jesus. Is there evidence that the Romans - in circa 30 AD - believed in the miracles that Jesus supposedly performed according to accounts written decades after his death?

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@fmf said
What was the content of "God's warning"? Or was it merely a threat?
There was absolutely nothing prohibited to them before the fall, except one thing, not the tree of knowledge but the knowledge of good and evil. They could have asked anything, gone anywhere, done anything, except the one thing, a choice with a death sentence involved. Once they did it, they became infected; this knowledge was now part of them, passed down from generation to generation, whereas nothing evil was in them before. It became like a disease to us; not much difference between what a doctor knows about cancer and what the patient now knows once they have it.

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@fmf said
Stories about virgin births, resurrections, and miracles were very common back in ancient times. The Romans "killed" Jesus. Is there evidence that the Romans - in circa 30 AD - believed in the miracles that Jesus supposedly performed according to accounts written decades after his death?
Difficult to get away from virgin births since many believe that is how the universe got here, something from nothing. Many stories surround Christ; not many Romans were killed for what they claimed they saw as those who walked with Christ were. You could more than likely get some to die for a lie they believed; it is much more challenging to get people to die for a lie they are lying about when all they have to do is tell the truth and live and more than likely get paid for it recanting.

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@kellyjay said
There was absolutely nothing prohibited to them before the fall, except one thing, not the tree of knowledge but the knowledge of good and evil. They could have asked anything, gone anywhere, done anything, except the one thing, a choice with a death sentence involved. Once they did it, they became infected; this knowledge was now part of them, passed down from generation to ...[text shortened]... ifference between what a doctor knows about cancer and what the patient now knows once they have it.
I did not ask you about what was "prohibited to them before the fall". I asked you about what was the content of "God's warning"?

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@kellyjay said
Many stories surround Christ; not many Romans were killed for what they claimed they saw as those who walked with Christ were.
The Romans executed Jesus for sedition, surely?

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@fmf said
I did not ask you about what was "prohibited to them before the fall". I asked you about what was the content of "God's warning"?
Did you lose the ability to read it yourself? It was a warning.

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@kellyjay said
They could have asked anything, gone anywhere, done anything, except the one thing, a choice with a death sentence involved.
Isn't Adam said to have lived for 930 years?

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@fmf said
The Romans executed Jesus for sedition, surely?
Do you have a point?

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