Time Travel

@fmf said
Assuming the Garden of Eden allegory/account was literally true, would you consider going back in time to try and persuade Adam and Eve to resist the temptation [to consume the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil] by showing them evidence of the "fallen man" consequences in the intervening millennia?

If it was "literally true" they probably didn't speak English. So it would be a waste of time.

I would grab a bunch of those fruits though.

@vivify said
If it was "literally true" they probably didn't speak English. So it would be a waste of time.

I would grab a bunch of those fruits though.

The time travellers would have tablets with access to Google Translate in the C21st.

@fmf said
The time travellers would have tablets with access to Google Translate in the C21st.

What language did Adam and Eve speak? You'd have to know that to even translate anything. And is this even a language that still exists?

@vivify said
What language did Adam and Eve speak? You'd have to know that to even translate anything. And is this even a language that still exists?

The sudden, unexpected issue of what language Adam and Eve spoke when we travelled back would affect the timeline ~ change the course of history ~ and lead to it being available in the C21st. So, having travelled back 6,000 years, we would find that Adam and Eve's language will have appeared on the Google Translate menu 6,000 years later, i.e. the one we were accessing with our tablets
.

@fmf said
Yes, thank you, KellyJay, I am aware of your beliefs. But the question still remains: "What was the content of "God's warning"? Or was it merely a threat?"

I will only say warning one more time, not much different than bridge is out.

@FMF

Assuming the Garden of Eden allegory/account was literally true, would you consider going back in time to try and persuade Adam and Eve to resist the temptation [to consume the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil] by showing them evidence of the "fallen man" consequences in the intervening millennia?

Adam would probably take one look at any of us and realize that there was something badly abnormal about us. He was smarter and a better speciman of a human being than anyone alive since.

How about you time travel back to see the first fish trying to crawl out of the water in Evolution's selection process to produce a land dwelling animal from the sea.

Would you attempt to kick start the process earlier by assisting that creature with a mate to reproduce?

I mean if you knew the first fish failed and either went back to the water or died. You might be able to speed up the evolution by a few million by offering assistance to it and finding it a sexual mate to produce offspring.

@sonship said
How about you time travel back to see the first fish trying to crawl out of the water in Evolution's selection process to produce a land dwelling animal from the sea.

It would be off-topic.

@kellyjay said
I will only say warning one more time, not much different than bridge is out.

Why are you blanking out the other points I have been putting to you?

@sonship said
Adam would probably take one look at any of us and realize that there was something badly abnormal about us. He was smarter and a better speciman of a human being than anyone alive since.

Speak for yourself, sonship. If Adam and Eve had been given a sudden vivid premonition about, say, the slaughter and depravity of the C20th, something you attribute to their "original sin", perhaps they wouldn't have eaten the fruit. God should have done this in the allegory, so in this thought exercise the time travellers do it.

@fmf said
The sudden, unexpected issue of what language Adam and Eve spoke when we travelled back would affect the timeline ~ change the course of history ~ and lead to it being available in the C21st. So, having travelled back 6,000 years, we would find that Adam and Eve's language will have appeared on the Google Translate menu 6,000 years later, i.e. the one we were accessing with our tablets
.

Who would teach you the language? If it's no longer in existence, how would you communicate to A & E that you want them to teach you the language so it can be translated in the first the place?

@vivify said
Who would teach you the language?

A person uses Google Translate to communicate so that nobody has to teach them the language.

@vivify said
If it's no longer in existence, how would you communicate to A & E that you want them to teach you the language so it can be translated in the first the place?

If there was a massive kerfuffle 6,000 years ago involving people from the future bearing touch screen tablets to access a translator and video clips, I am pretty sure the folklore surrounding these events would survive for 6,000 years along with the language it was first told in.

@fmf said
If there was a massive kerfuffle 6,000 years ago involving people from the future bearing touch screen tablets to access a translator and video clips, I am pretty sure the folklore surrounding these events would survive for 6,000 years along with the language it was first told in.

But there would have to be an initial time traveler to set those events in motion.

How would that initial time traveler communicate in a language s/he doesn't understand, doesn't know the name of, and might no longer exist?

@vivify said
But there would have to be an initial time traveler to set those events in motion.

No! Or maybe yes: I am that initial time traveller. I go back. I can't communicate with Adam and Eve. So I use my tablet to access the C21st Google Translate... which will now include Adamandevish, for my use, because I have changed the course of history in the way described above. As soon as I make the trip back, Adamandevish appears on the Google Translate menu in the C21st, and, indeed it may well be a widely spoken tongue.

@vivify said
How would that initial time traveler communicate in a language s/he doesn't understand, doesn't know the name of, and might no longer exist?

The traveller would simply access Google Translate where Adamandevish would be on the menu.