@fmf saidYou still haven't answered how you, that initial time traveler, learned the language in the first place so Google could update their translators.
No! Or maybe yes: I am that initial time traveller. I go back. I can't communicate with Adam and Eve. So I use my tablet to access the C21st Google Translate... which will now include Adamandevish, for my use, because I have changed the course of history in the way described above.
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@vivify saidThe initial time traveller doesn't have to learn the language.
You still haven't answered how you, that initial time traveler, learned the language in the first place so Google could update their translators.
He or she uses Google Translate.
After the initial time traveller returns to the present day, the language that Adam and Eve used to communicate with the traveller is preserved thanks to the extraordinary events [Adam and Eve seeing 5,000-6,000 years into the future].
And, although that original language interacts with and spawns other languages, it will still be there in the C21st...
...which explains why it is there, available on the tablet when the time traveller accesses the C21st Google Translate 6,000 years ago in order to communicate with the gobsmacked Adam and Eve.
@fmf saidThen how come A & E's language isn't listed in Google Translator?
Broadly speaking, over the 6,000 years after the time traveller's momentous jaunt backwards in time but, of course, more specifically, over the 16 years since 2006, when Google Translate started.
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Speak for yourself, sonship.
If he had a glimpse at that photograph of your face I have no doubt he know I was speaking for you as well.
If Adam and Eve had been given a sudden vivid premonition about, say, the slaughter and depravity of the C20th, something you attribute to their "original sin", perhaps they wouldn't have eaten the fruit.
I don't use the phrase "original sin."
Awareness of the awfulness of thier wrong choice did not require a visitor from the future imo.
I don't think you have to go nearly that far. Soon after Abel was murdered and Cain was banished they realized that losing two children on one day indicated they had really made a mistake.
Actually, as soon as they realized their consciouness of being naked and ashamed and afraid, they knew they had made the wrong decision. Genesis indicates immediately after their disobedience they were aware of the loss of enjoyment, security, and safety.
It was not necerssary for them to have a future view thousands of years into the future.
God should have done this in the allegory, so in this thought exercise the time travellers do it.
History and actual places and events can also have allegorical meaning.
I read the account of the disobedience of Adam and Eve as history, snake and
all.
Some things in the Old Testament had both historical and symbolic significance. IE.
the dry land appearing on the third day,
Adam as the first man,
Eve as the first woman,
the two trees in the garden of Eden,
an actual speaking serpent,
the accepted offering if Abel,
the rejected offering of Cain,
the ark of Noah,
the smoke ascending from the altar of Noah,
the appearance of the rainbow,
the Passover lamb in the Exodus,
the crossing of the Red Sea,
the manna from heaven feeding the Hebrews for 40 years,
the ark of the covenant,
the physical tabernacle with all of its furniture,
the promised land of Canaan,
the deportation to Babylon,
the return to the promise land from Babylon, etc.
Many things in the Hebrew Bible were historical carrying also allegorical significance overseen by the God who transcends time and space and foreknows the future.
If someone argued that the serpent was not a physical reality, that is his opinion to which he has right. God bless such a one. You're speaking with me right now. I take the account as history as apparently Jesus Christ also did.
@sonship saidMmm. Let me guess. You're not going to enter into the spirit of this thread, are you?
I don't use the phrase "original sin."
Awareness of the awfulness of thier wrong choice did not require a visitor from the future imo.
I don't think you have to go nearly that far. Soon after Abel was murdered and Cain was banished they realized that losing two children on one day indicated they had really made a mistake.
Actually, as soon as they real ...[text shortened]... ou're speaking with me right now. I take the account as history as apparently Jesus Christ also did.
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Mmm. Let me guess. You're not going to enter into the spirit of this thread, are you?
To answer your question in the OP:
Yes, I probably WOULD have told them about the horrors of the fallen world to come. That is human nature if such a hypothetical chance arrived.
And Adam and Eve would have probably realized that if I was indeed a product of the future world, I was telling the truth.
I guess you want me to say that if YOU, FMF had gone back to talk to them, they would have been dazzled at your human perfection.
Alright, alright!
If you wish Adam would have said "My, WHAT a fine intelligent, sinless, upright, innocent fellow this man from the distant future is. Eve, Come here look what splendid offspring will come from us someday!"
Happy now?
@fmf saidThe lesson learned is we are not God, everything was ours had we been content.
So, is death not connected to evil? Is THAT the lesson learned from Adam's "death sentence" in the garden, for his "evil", followed by him living for 930 years?
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@sonship saidNot at all. Don't be so petty. Whoosh. If anyone, not necessarily "FMF", had told them about the consequences of becoming "fallen", a time traveller, or, more to the moral point: God... then all the 1,000s of years of abject human suffering caused by the eating of the fruit could have been avoided.
I guess you want me to say that if YOU, FMF had gone back to talk to them, they would have been dazzled at your human perfection.