To be a Christian....

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
this is not my question, please answer my question.

In the passage, the "good trees" are clearly a reference to true Christians.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
this is not my question, please answer my question.

Do your opinions have their basis in an inference, that is, something not explicitly
stated in the passage.

Yes I have an absolutely clear understanding of what the "good trees" clearly refers to. What the passage is saying is not difficult to understand.

Originally posted by FMF
In the passage, the "good trees" are clearly a reference to true Christians.

this is not my question, my question is,

are you willing to state that as the passage does not explicitly mention true christians,
disciples of Christ or his followers in any capacity and what you think is therefore the
result of and has its basis in an inference.

Originally posted by FMF
Yes I have an absolutely clear understanding of what the "good trees" clearly refers to. What the passage is saying is not difficult to understand.

i am asking if you came to this conclusion through an inference or something that was
explicitly stated in the passage, thanks.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i am asking if you came to this conclusion through an inference or something that was
explicitly stated in the passage, thanks.

I came to my conclusion by reading the passage. I didn't find its meaning difficult to discern at all.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
this is not my question, my question is,

are you willing to state that as the passage does not explicitly mention true christians,
disciples of Christ or his followers in any capacity and what you think is therefore the
result of and has its basis in an inference.

The true Christians in the passage are clearly the "good trees" and true Cristians will know each other by their "fruit". Clearly. I fully understand that you cannot see it, but it's fine.

Originally posted by FMF
I came to my conclusion by reading the passage. I didn't find its meaning difficult to discern at all.

I did not ask how you came to the conclusion, I did not ask whether it was easy or
difficult, I have not asked what that conclusion is, I have tried to ascertain whether it
was the result of drawing an inference of whether it was the result of something
explicitly stated.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I did not ask how you came to the conclusion, I did not ask whether it was easy or
difficult, I have not asked what that conclusion is, I have tried to ascertain whether it
was the result of drawing an inference of whether it was the result of something
explicitly stated.

The passage is perfectly clear to me. True Christians are clearly referred to and the way to "know" them is clearly stated.

Originally posted by FMF
The true Christians in the passage are clearly the "good trees" and true Cristians will know each other by their "fruit". Clearly. I fully understand that you cannot see it, but it's fine.

i did not ask who the true Christians are, i did not ask how they will know each other,
what i did ask was whether you came to this conclusion through an inference or
something that was explicitly stated, this is what i actually asked.

Originally posted by FMF
The passage is perfectly clear to me. True Christians are clearly referred to and the way to "know" them is clearly stated.

did you come to this conclusion through an inference or something that was explicitly
stated in the passage.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
did you come to this conclusion through an inference or something that was explicitly
stated in the passage.

I came to my conclusion by reading the passage, the meaning of which is not unclear in any way at all.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i did not ask who the true Christians are, i did not ask how they will know each other,
what i did ask was whether you came to this conclusion through an inference or
something that was explicitly stated, this is what i actually asked.

If the "good trees" with their "good fruit" are not a clear reference to true Christians, then the passage makes no sense. But I think the passage makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by FMF
I came to my conclusion by reading the passage, the meaning of which is not unclear in any way at all.

I see so it was through an inference in the passage because clearly the terms disciples,
Christians, followers of Christ, true Christians is not present in the passage, thank you,
why couldn't you have said that when i originally asked?

Originally posted by FMF
If the "good trees" with their "good fruit" are not a clear reference to true Christians, then the passage makes no sense. But I think the passage makes perfect sense.

i know what you think but it has nothing to do with my actual question.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I see so it was through an inference in the passage because the terms disciples,
christians, followers of Christ, true Christians is not present in the passage, thank you,
why couldn't you have said that when i originally asked?

I read the passage and realised that it is about true Christians. Don't you think it is too? What else can the "good trees" with their "good fruit" mean? The meaning of the passage could not be clearer.