Originally posted by Rajk999
Every Christian knows what Christ's important commandments were. Christ said it clearly and gave numerous parables to illustrate.
The reason for the lack of agreement is two fold. First, the important commandment of Christ [love thy neighbour as thyself] takes you on a whole different lifestyle. Many people cannot do it. Secondly, like normal crafty peop ...[text shortened]... Im pretty sure that people from all walks of life and religions will be acceptable to Christ.
Fine but if you want a definition that we can actually use to work out who is or who is not a
Christian then WE would have to be able to all collectively agree on what qualifies someone
as being a Christian.
If you claim that we can't know and only JC can decide then you have just admitted that it's
impossible for us to define or decide who is or is not a Christian.
The question here is not who gets into heaven, but how can we on earth tell who is or is not
really a Christian.
Particularly given JW's tendency to do 'no true Scotsman' arguments about who is or is not a
Unless we can come up with a truly objective standard that everyone can agree on here on earth
then we can't really tell who is or is not a 'true' Christian.
Basically we land up where we are where we classify people as Christian simply because that is
how they identify themselves.
Now there may be some extreme fringe cases where someone's beliefs as stated are so diametrically
opposed to what is either written in the bible or practised by the major Christian groups that we might
disqualify them but for the most part we simply have to take people at their word that if they say they are
Christian then they are. Who are we to argue?
In another thread here Jaywill was extolling the virtues of praying while reading the bible so that the
holy spirit would guide and direct you to the correct meaning and interpretation of the words.
This was followed by other Christians disagreeing that that was best or needed or even possible.
If you guys can't agree, and we can't do objective external tests (is JC or god available for interview so we
can find out what they really think?) then Christian must inevitably remain a fuzzily defined catch all term for
all the various and varied cults sects and denominations that make up the hundreds of Christian religions.