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Originally posted by @eladarAsk him. And stop making things up.
So sonship admits that his God ordered genocide? He is cool with a good God demanding innocent women and children be slaughtered?
Originally posted by @eladarAsk him. And stop making things up.
So sonship admits that his God ordered genocide? He is cool with a good God demanding innocent women and children be slaughtered?
Originally posted by @fmfWhy ask him? He doesn't admit that God ordered homosexuals to be executed. He is one dishonest dude.
Ask him. And stop making things up.
Originally posted by @eladarWhat on earth are you on about? I mean, really. Take a breath. Stop fabricating things.
Why ask him? He doesn't admit that God ordered homosexuals to be executed.
Originally posted by @fmfDude you are a liar then. Why do you bother to try to act like you are trying to have honest discourse?
What on earth are you on about? I mean, really. Take a breath. Stop fabricating things.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI am not eager that this thread quickly morph into just another argument about the lake of fire.
Curious why you are inclined to focus on the symbolic nature of Leviticus but are not inclined to do so with biblical passages that speak of eternal suffering in hell.
Are passages only symbolic when they suit your purpose?
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them, and they were judged, each of them, according to their works.
And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire." (Rev. 20:13,14)
Originally posted by @sonshipWhat if God gave humanity the notion of eternity to enable us to provide a societal narrative beyond our individual lifetime? Such a narrative might better help us to avoid conflict with our neighbours and environment in the here and now to give our species better chances to reach the next millenia. I might consider myself a theist but I am no fan of pie in the sky when you die.
I am not eager that this thread quickly morph into just another argument about the lake of fire.
I recognize the symbolism of passages concerning eternal punishment. But they do not symbolize AWAY the dreaded matter to which any such symbols point - eternal punishment.
Look, when Death and Hades are thrown into the lake of fire, that symbolize ...[text shortened]... ond death which finds its ultimate place within the first death. But it is the other way around.
Originally posted by @ragwort
What if God gave humanity the notion of eternity to enable us to provide a societal narrative beyond our individual lifetime? Such a narrative might better help us to avoid conflict with our neighbours and environment in the here and now to give our species better chances to reach the next millenia. I might consider myself a theist but I am no fan of pie in the sky when you die.
As for the barbaric practice of stoning I am sure the ancient Israelites were projecting their own prejudices onto their notion of God in order to rubber stamp it, just as many have done since. Jesus of Nazareth challenged this type of behaviour in the Go sin no more story in his attempt to move the thinking forward.
Originally posted by @ragwort
What if God gave humanity the notion of eternity to enable us to provide a societal narrative beyond our individual lifetime? Such a narrative might better help us to avoid conflict with our neighbours and environment in the here and now to give our species better chances to reach the next millenia. I might consider myself a theist but I am no fan of pie in ...[text shortened]... this type of behaviour in the Go sin no more story in his attempt to move the thinking forward.
I might consider myself a theist but I am no fan of pie in the sky when you die.
Originally posted by @fmfSo Jehovah commanded that every seven years the debt servant be released from his depts in a year of Jubilee, given a fresh new start on life.
I would have thought that most sceptics would simply think what ghastly times they seemed to be back then and marvel at how there are people in the 21st century still obsessing over a mythology rooted in such dark and depraved stuff.
Originally posted by @eladarI thought judgement belonged to the Lord?!
Dude you are a liar then. Why do you bother to try to act like you are trying to have honest discourse?
You are disgusting. I wonder if there is an honest liberal in this forum.
So far there are three official dishonest people in this forum: you, sonship and Suzi
All three of you simply wish to complain without any sort of honest discussion. Many others are possibilities but I am still holding judgement on them.
Originally posted by @sonshipTypo:
Never wanted the [debt collector] [edited] to release you from your obligation after a period of time ?
Originally posted by @ragwortAs for the barbaric practice of stoning I am sure the ancient Israelites were projecting their own prejudices onto their notion of God in order to rubber stamp it, just as many have done since.
What if God gave humanity the notion of eternity to enable us to provide a societal narrative beyond our individual lifetime? Such a narrative might better help us to avoid conflict with our neighbours and environment in the here and now to give our species better chances to reach the next millenia. I might consider myself a theist but I am no fan of pie in ...[text shortened]... this type of behaviour in the Go sin no more story in his attempt to move the thinking forward.