Originally posted by FMFNo i am asking you, surely you must know if you are asking questions whose meaning hinges on understanding the terms in the passage or are we to conclude that you have been using terms which form the basis of arguments that you have not the slightest idea what they mean?
You should ask josephw. He is the poster who cited James 4:4. What does he think "friendship with the world" means? He needs to explain whether he has determined divesgeester is "an enemy of God". Or Suzianne. Or you. Or lemon lime. But most of all josephw.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDo you believe that divegeester has made himself into "an enemy of God"?
As has been pointed out James was clearly speaking to fellow believers making the insinuation that its somehow not proper or moral or whatever else to confront other Christians when they espouse values that are contrary to Christian principles utterly absurd. Perhaps its once again more luke warm wateriness that has aroused your sensibilities, the k ...[text shortened]... ones own sensibilities that GB mentioned elsewhere and which marks your entire posting history.
-Removed-Oh, I see.
And now the point is not the meaning of James 4:4 after all. Then why all the hyperbole?
So, as I thought.
You and FMF are dragging us all through the mud of your own narcissism because, AGAIN, someone actually had the bad taste to disagree with you.
That's ALWAYS why you throw hissy fits!
Originally posted by robbie carrobiejospehw cited the verse. He needs to explain it. He needs to explain how he thinks it applies to divegeester and why divegeester's quip to Wolfgang59 triggered it.
No i am asking you, surely you must know if you are asking questions whose meaning hinges on understanding the terms in the passage or are we to conclude that you have been using terms which form the basis of arguments that you have not the slightest idea what they mean?
Originally posted by FMFIn order for us to determine whether divesgeester is 'an enemy of God', we need to qualify it and the only way we can do that is to understand the terms in the passage, so you will tell us, what does , 'friendship with the world mean?'. Otherwise your question makes absolutely no sense.
Do you believe that divegeester has made himself into "an enemy of God"?
Originally posted by robbie carrobiejosephw needs to explain it ~ he cited it ~ I didn't.
In order for us to determine whether divesgeester is 'an enemy of God', we need to qualify it and the only way we can do that is to understand the terms in the passage, so you will tell us, what does , 'friendship with the world mean?'. Otherwise your question makes absolutely no sense.
Originally posted by FMFNo you need to explain it otherwise your question can be dismissed on the basis that its taken out of context and has no bearing on what the author or Joseph for that matter actually meant.
jospehw cited the verse. He needs to explain it. He needs to explain how he thinks it applies to divegeester and why divegeester's quip to Wolfgang59 triggered it.
Originally posted by SuzianneWhy was it necessary for josephw to cite James 4:4 in order to demonstrate that he disagreed with divegeester?
You and FMF are dragging us all through the mud of your own narcissism because, AGAIN, someone actually had the bad taste to [b]disagree with you. [/b]
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Originally posted by FMFYou seem capable of citing the latter part of the verse and using it with understanding, why can you not cite the preceding clause which qualifies the statement? Its most strange, was the passage torn from your Bible and only the latter clause remained?
josephw needs to explain it ~ he cited it ~ I didn't.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOn the contrary, josephw needs to explain the context and what he actually meant. I have been asking him to.
No you need to explain it otherwise your question can be dismissed on the basis that its taken out of context and has no bearing on what the author or Joseph for that matter actually meant.
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Originally posted by FMFBut you have been using a phrase from the verse, if you understand that clause why cant you tell us about the preceding clause which qualifies the statement that you have been using presumably with some understanding? You are acting very strangely.
On the contrary, josephw needs to explain the context and what he actually meant. I have been asking him to.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI quoted it in full here Thread 167360 top of page 14 but josephw still wouldn't explain.
But you have been using a phrase from the verse, if you understand that clause why cant you tell us about the preceding clause which qualifies the statement that you have been using presumably with some understanding? You are acting very strangely.