@fmf saidBut why?
Morally speaking though, the food stuff was nonsense.
Pork is a lower grade sort of meat and much of the other stuff very bluntly states that it is because the Lord finds eating those things disgusting. I think this is even simply what is said for the pig.
@philokalia saidYou don't have to invest lots of time. It's your choice.
But you should understand it whole criticizing the Bible so we don't have to invest lots of time correcting what the actual stance is when it is stated wrongly and sloppily in the criticism.
@philokalia said"The Lord finds eating those things disgusting", bluntly stated or not bluntly stated, is industrial grade mumbo-jumbo.
But why?
Pork is a lower grade sort of meat and much of the other stuff very bluntly states that it is because the Lord finds eating those things disgusting. I think this is even simply what is said for the pig.
@philokalia saidThey executed children for being rude to their parents when they deemed it necessary or for eating food that a god figure thought "disgusting" but no commandments against rape and slavery and child abuse and genocide. One could argue that is something "remotely resembling justice"
So you're saying that it's inconceivable that Hebrews would've basically had anything remotely resembling justice.
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@philokalia saidIt is your prerogative to pick whatever invasions and wars-for-self-preservation you want from history and declare them divinely inspired or divinely ordered.
Where's the criticism, though?
@philokalia saidWhy? Was slavery a bad thing?
The Hebrews are the people of God led out of a state of slavery
@philokalia saidCultivating a concept of morality and ethics is not evidence of supernatural causality.
The Hebrews are the people of God led out of a state of slavery who have a cultivated concept of morality and ethics.
You still haven't said why it's "tragic" that I don't buy into the Hebrews' claims that they carried out the genocide and occupied the land was in accordance with a supernatural being's wishes.
@fmf saidSo if someone were to say that a pig consumes a disgusting variety of food as a scavenger and thus it is disgusting to eat it, do you see the logic in it?
"The Lord finds eating those things disgusting", bluntly stated or not bluntly stated, is industrial grade mumbo-jumbo.
I see the logic in it.
@fmf saidTo doubt God is tragic as God is beneficial to all people and should be glorified and revered, and it is through a relationship with God that we overcome our sins.
Cultivating a concept of morality and ethics is not evidence of supernatural causality.
You still haven't said why it's "tragic" that I don't buy into the Hebrews' claims that they carried out the genocide and occupied the land was in accordance with a supernatural being's wishes.
And in denial of God, we sin.
@fmf saidThe commandment against rape is the sixth commandment.
They executed children for being rude to their parents when they deemed it necessary or for eating food that a god figure thought "disgusting" but no commandments against rape and slavery and child abuse and genocide. One could argue that is something "remotely resembling justice"
And no, while it was possible to face such a thing, it would be absurd for a child to have been executed for disobedience. If has been explained before that in Hebrew law the punishments listed are Maximums left up to choice to the victims or other relevant authorities, and not minimums.
@philokalia saidBut I am not superstitious in the way you are, I don't believe in your god figure, I am not a member of your religion, and this is not a website dedicated to your particular religion. Talking about not being a member of your religion as if it's "tragic" smacks of preaching to the choir and religionists stroking each other or posturing for each other. "Tragic"? There is no consequence for me for not being a Christian ~ let alone anything "tragic" about it.
To doubt God is tragic as God is beneficial to all people and should be glorified and revered, and it is through a relationship with God that we overcome our sins.
And in denial of God, we sin.
@philokalia saidI did reply to your economic justification for slavery but you blanked it out.
I just explained my stance on it and you didn't reply.
@philokalia saidPork is OK. If someone were to say that eating a pig is disgusting, I'd suggest they eat something else and hope that they wouldn't kill me for eating it.
So if someone were to say that a pig consumes a disgusting variety of food as a scavenger and thus it is disgusting to eat it, do you see the logic in it?
I see the logic in it.
@philokalia saidI didn't say "disobedience". I see what you did there. I said: They executed children for being rude to their parents when they deemed it necessary.
And no, while it was possible to face such a thing, it would be absurd for a child to have been executed for disobedience.