@fmf saidI was unaware that I actually offered some statement that it is tragic couched in a way like I was trying to shame you.
But I am not superstitious in the way you are, I don't believe in your god figure, I am not a member of your religion, and this is not a website dedicated to your particular religion. Talking about not being a member of your religion as if it's "tragic" smacks of preaching to the choir and religionists stroking each other or posturing for each other. "Tragic"? There is no consequence for me for not being a Christian ~ let alone anything "tragic" about it.
If that is the case, I'm sorry.
@philokalia saidSo married men could not rape. Or, no, wait, depends on one's definition of adultery. Scholars split. Unclear. Was it not worth an unequivocal Commandment? There's a clear one about "the Sabbath" which is pure superstition-in-action, but nothing clear about raping or abusing or subjecting women to domestic and sexual violence. I guess such a Commandment did not reflect the times the writers lived in, so their god figure's wishes - as they supposedly recorded them - are restricted in that way.
The commandment against rape is the sixth commandment.
@fmf saidI think there's actually a really big context here that should be looked at
I didn't say "disobedience". I see what you did there. I said: They executed children for being rude to their parents when they deemed it necessary.
https://www.gotquestions.org/stone-rebellious-children.html
@fmf saidI was working late a lot last week. I guess I missed it.
I did reply to your economic justification for slavery but you blanked it out.
Where is it? Or, would you post it?
I'll very gladly debate it if I see it.
@fmf saidYou're in luck because we eat pork at my church a lot.
Pork is OK. If someone were to say that eating a pig is disgusting, I'd suggest they eat something else and hope that they wouldn't kill me for eating it.
@fmf saidMarital rape is a complex topic though, right.
So married men could not rape. Or, no, wait, depends on one's definition of adultery. Scholars split. Unclear. Was it not worth an unequivocal Commandment? There's a clear one about "the Sabbath" which is pure superstition-in-action, but nothing clear about raping or abusing or subjecting women to domestic and sexual violence. I guess such a Commandment did not reflect the times ...[text shortened]... ed in, so their god figure's wishes - as they supposedly recorded them - are restricted in that way.
I think it's understandable that the sixth commandment doesn't have like several paragraphs accompanying it on the topic.
@philokalia saidTheists telling atheists - on a website like this - that their atheism is "tragic" is like football crowds jeering at the opposing supporters. Theists telling fellow theists that atheists' atheism is "tragic" on a Christian website might lead to discussions about what to do about the "tragic" atheistic beliefs of a friend or acquaintence. Let's hope they come up with something better than calling them "tragic" on a non-Christian message board.
I was unaware that I actually offered some statement that it is tragic couched in a way like I was trying to shame you.
@fmf saidAlright, what is the context of what I said? Where did I say it was tragic?
Theists telling atheists - on a website like this - that their atheism is "tragic" is like football crowds jeering at the opposing supporters. Theists telling fellow theists that atheists' atheism is "tragic" on a Christian website might lead to discussions about what to do about the "tragic" atheistic beliefs of a friend or acquaintence. Let's hope they come up with something better than calling them "tragic" on a non-Christian message board.
I don't think I said that.
@philokalia saidNo, you didn't. You actually replied to it but blanked out what I had said - with the content being perhaps a little bit too clever for you. Besides, you were intent on browbeating me post after post after post for not posting in a way you approve of. And I was telling you you were wasting your breath. So I suggest you now put your amoral economic justification for slavery in your pipe and smoke it - and then blow the smoke in someone else's face.
I was working late a lot last week. I guess I missed it.
@fmf saidYou just called me stupid, or at least stupider Than You
No, you didn't. You actually replied to it but blanked out what I had said - with the content being perhaps a little bit too clever for you. Besides, you were intent on browbeating me post after post after post for not posting in a way you approve of. And I was telling you you were wasting your breath. So I suggest you now put your amoral economic justification for slavery in your pipe and smoke it - and then blow the smoke in someone else's face.
"with the content being perhaps a little bit too clever for you."
Or am I reading that wrong?
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@philokalia saidSo, there was no moral leadership from your god figure, then. Indeed, BigDoggProblem has demonstrated that he is a more impressive moral thinker than the God found in ancient Hebrew texts. He offered this: Thou shalt not have sexual relations with anyone, including thine own wife, without their consent. Not so "complex". It's only "complex" if the god figure merely follows where morally primitive authors want it to go. BigDoggProblem beats your God on the morality of rape. Hands down.
Marital rape is a complex topic though, right.
@philokalia saidWhy else would you have blanked it out?
You just called me stupid, or at least stupider Than You
"with the content being perhaps a little bit too clever for you."
Or am I reading that wrong?
@philokalia saidNo, it isn't. Save this silly stuff for people who believe in your God. There is no "tragic" thing in my life that has been caused by me going from a Christian to a non-Christian.
To doubt God is tragic
@philokalia saidBigDogProblem nailed it in 15 words. What a moral quandary your sixth commandment has you in with regard to rape... several paragraphs?
I think it's understandable that the sixth commandment doesn't have like several paragraphs accompanying it on the topic.
Here was another one delivers NOT in "several paragraphs": Thou shalt not physically assault any person, unless that person is acting to harm thyself or other innocents.
@fmf saidAlright, so it is safe to say you think I'm too dumb to follow your comments, right?
Why else would you have blanked it out?
This is interesting because didn't you just remark how atheists never insult Christians on this forum?
Lol.