Originally posted by AppleChessI appreciate your considered reply.
Genocide is abhorrent on a human level. My contention is, maybe it isn't genocide as you and I think of genocide as in say Rwanda. Please engage what I say more carefully. If you truly thought that was what I was writing then we clearly did not start off on the same level of mutual respect regarding each other's comprehension ability.[/b]
I think your statement 'Genocide is abhorrent on a human level' really is the key note, for me. As an atheist (and someone who views the bible as no more than an interesting collection of stories) i believe there is 'only' a human level, which necessarily means that i will always view genocide as abhorrent, irrespective of the circumstances. I readily accept that people who believe there is a 'higher level' may wish to explore the issue, but i am not one of those people. Genocide, murder, torture, will only ever be seen by me on a 'human level.' They are all abhorrent. They are all unjustifiable.
Originally posted by stellspalfieSuzie is a freak mate I wouldn't even bother talking to her.
i tend not to read many american, evangelical, nutjob authors for some reason. do you think i should read it? do you think this guy has his head screwed on? did you also agree when he stated obama was paving the way for satan?
edit: this is also the guy who said the 1980's would be the last decade of history as we know it.
Originally posted by AppleChessgenocides become less horrible if they are committed by God?
When I find some time I'll try to respond to this further.
I would graciously (if I can say it this way) that it is intellectually blind to equate the Canaanite 'Genocide' (per your post) as analogous to torture.
This analogy is so broken on multiple points that it doesn't even fit loosely.
My simple point was [b]If you believe the Bible in it ...[text shortened]... not start off on the same level of mutual respect regarding each other's comprehension ability.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Dukethey have that one covered: god is the maker of that child. when a man and woman are doing proper coitus, god can wrap a soul(his property) in meat(his property) and thus a baby(his property) is made and placed inside the mother's (also his property) uterus.
A mother is the maker of her child. Does she have the moral right to destroy that child, after it has been created?
Originally posted by RJHindsi want to ask you something else. the genocide of the canaanites was done through the israelites at the command of god.
Of course. God is the maker of mankind and has the moral right to destroy His own handiwork. 😏
what exactly would you NOT do, even if god commanded you?
where would you draw the line? would you kill children if god asked you to? how many?
can you think of something, that you would rather say "send me to hell for all eternity, i cannot in good conscience do this"?
Originally posted by ZahlanziNice. Aren't you glad you finished the sixth grade, now?
they have that one covered: god is the maker of that child. when a man and woman are doing proper coitus, god can wrap a soul(his property) in meat(his property) and thus a baby(his property) is made and placed inside the mother's (also his property) uterus.
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou must wonder why people think you're not a Christian.
i want to ask you something else. the genocide of the canaanites was done through the israelites at the command of god.
what exactly would you NOT do, even if god commanded you?
where would you draw the line? would you kill children if god asked you to? how many?
can you think of something, that you would rather say "send me to hell for all eternity, i cannot in good conscience do this"?
I mean, at least sometimes you must wonder this.
I read foolishness like this, and I have to wonder also. But what I'm wondering is why you call yourself a Christian. Christians are commanded by Christ to love God. Clearly, you don't.
Originally posted by Suziannei am using mocking language to mock your incredibly stupid beliefs.
Nice. Aren't you glad you finished the sixth grade, now?
no, that's not proper. santa claus is a stupid belief. to believe santa claus murders elves and still believe he is good, just because he is santa, that's psychotic
so aside from the mocking language, do you not think that god owns everything and everyone and it is right to kill us all on a whim?
Originally posted by SuzianneI think it is a valid parallel.
A mother is not God.
You guys really are having a quandry with the English language, aren't you?
Hinds said 'God is the maker of mankind and has the moral right to destroy His own handiwork.'
Does the creator of life (be it a mother, or God himself) have the 'moral right' to destroy their creation? Or moreover, would an all loving, all forgiving God really choose to do so?
I truly believe that if God does exist he would not be pleased that people would think him capable of doing so.
Originally posted by ZahlanziI would attempt to obey God as my ability allowed. 😏
i want to ask you something else. the genocide of the canaanites was done through the israelites at the command of god.
what exactly would you NOT do, even if god commanded you?
where would you draw the line? would you kill children if god asked you to? how many?
can you think of something, that you would rather say "send me to hell for all eternity, i cannot in good conscience do this"?