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Spirituality

  1. 05 Sep '18 19:59
    ...to know there is no God?

    No modifying the question. Please.
  2. 05 Sep '18 21:24
    that dogs have short lives
  3. 05 Sep '18 23:44
    Originally posted by @mister-moggy
    that dogs have short lives
    I knew the question was too easy. 😉

    Apparently too challenging too.
  4. 06 Sep '18 10:26
    the dog reply is just another way of asking about the state of pain, death, evil and malformed animals and humans that are born, etc.
  5. 06 Sep '18 15:09
    Originally posted by @secondson
    ...to know there is no God?

    No modifying the question. Please.
    It's impossible to know there is no God, but no one cares about "knowing" there is no God.

    Imagine a measuring rod that was a mile long, at one end is ultimate assured knowing and at the other end is ultimate faith - everyone is along that spectrum probably as a normal distribution but with no one at each of the extremes.

    Now to argue that one has to "know" that there is no God in order to somehow satisfy a need to prove that God does not exist is like saying I need to know that there are no tooth fairies in order to prove that their are no tooth fairies.

    Most people just sit in the middle of the spectrum and don't care either way.
  6. 06 Sep '18 15:10
    Originally posted by @mister-moggy
    the dog reply is just another way of asking about the state of pain, death, evil and malformed animals and humans that are born, etc.
    What are you on about dude?
  7. 06 Sep '18 22:39
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    It's impossible to know there is no God, but no one cares about "knowing" there is no God.

    Imagine a measuring rod that was a mile long, at one end is ultimate assured knowing and at the other end is ultimate faith - everyone is along that spectrum probably as a normal distribution but with no one at each of the extremes.

    Now to argue that one has ...[text shortened]... tooth fairies.

    Most people just sit in the middle of the spectrum and don't care either way.
    You're over complicating.

    If one says "there is no God", then it stands to reason they know why there is no God.

    Apparently the atheists in this forum don't have a valid reason based on knowledge of why they think there is no God.

    Perhaps though, based on your spurious rationale above, you haven't read psalm 19 or Romans 1.
  8. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    07 Sep '18 04:46
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Apparently the atheists in this forum don't have a valid reason based on knowledge of why they think there is no God.
    Atheists plural? I know Ghost of a Duke is clear about his belief that 'there is no god (or gods)'. Who are the other atheists, according to you, that make that claim?
  9. 07 Sep '18 06:00
    Originally posted by @secondson
    You're over complicating.

    If one says "there is no God", then it stands to reason they know why there is no God.

    Apparently the atheists in this forum don't have a valid reason based on knowledge of why they think there is no God.

    Perhaps though, based on your spurious rationale above, you haven't read psalm 19 or Romans 1.
    In two posts you have gone from asking what an atheist needs to “know” to say there is no God, to using the Bible to prove your point.

    Are you aware of how dumb this is as an argument to an atheist?
  10. Standard member Rajk999
    Enjoying
    07 Sep '18 10:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    In two posts you have gone from asking what an atheist needs to “know” to say there is no God, to using the Bible to prove your point.

    Are you aware of how dumb this is as an argument to an atheist?
    The poor guy is trying his best. First a thread about reading backwards now this one. Neither makes sense but for someone with a mental age of a 8 yr old he is doing pretty good.
  11. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    09 Sep '18 00:56
    Originally posted by @secondson
    ...to know there is no God?

    No modifying the question. Please.
    there is a god. And a Lord
  12. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    09 Sep '18 00:56
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    It's impossible to know there is no God, but no one cares about "knowing" there is no God.

    Imagine a measuring rod that was a mile long, at one end is ultimate assured knowing and at the other end is ultimate faith - everyone is along that spectrum probably as a normal distribution but with no one at each of the extremes.

    Now to argue that one has ...[text shortened]... tooth fairies.

    Most people just sit in the middle of the spectrum and don't care either way.
    nothing is impossible
  13. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    09 Sep '18 00:58
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    The poor guy is trying his best. First a thread about reading backwards now this one. Neither makes sense but for someone with a mental age of a 8 yr old he is doing pretty good.
    lol 🙂
  14. 09 Sep '18 02:51
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    In two posts you have gone from asking what an atheist needs to “know” to say there is no God, to using the Bible to prove your point.

    Are you aware of how dumb this is as an argument to an atheist?
    Are you aware of how dumb it is to try and win an argument about the existence of God by not using the Bible?

    And are you aware of how dumb it is to accuse me of using the Bible to prove a point about the existence of God, especially since it was to you I referenced the Bible at all in this thread?

    Nothing dumber than a so-called Christian that argues and debates as though he doesn't know which side of the argument he stands.
  15. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    09 Sep '18 02:56
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Are you aware of how dumb it is to try and win an argument about the existence of God by not using the Bible?
    Don't billions of theists argue for the existence of God by looking at things like intelligent design and irreducible complexity?