Originally posted by @badradgerthe small things....
I struggle to tie my shoelaces but I know where my feet are.
-Removed-That's obtuse considering that no "Christian" ever came to a saving knowledge of God's grace without the Bible.
You sound like a defeatist Christian.
Why don't you try focusing on the question posed in the OP? I'll rephrase the question using your statement above as a pattern to make it easier for you to understand.
What argument can an atheist make proving the non-existence of a creator God "either with or without" knowledge?
Originally posted by @secondsonWell, maybe an atheist who believes there is no god or gods will come along at some point and answer your question. As I said earlier, Ghost of a Duke is the only such atheist among the regular posters that I can think of.
Yet atheists still claim to know there is no God. Based on what knowledge?
Originally posted by @secondsonDo you know the answer and are going to mark the answers?
...to know there is no God?
No modifying the question. Please.
or
Do you not know the answer?
Originally posted by @secondsonAw. Those poor followers of Jesus prior to the 3rd Century. No bible.
That's obtuse considering that no "Christian" ever came to a saving knowledge of God's grace without the Bible.
And even when there was a bible most people could not read it.
And even now there are multiple versions of the bible.
So what does your statement really mean?