Originally posted by RJHindsThere are many definitions of the word faith.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
(Hebrew 11:1 KJV)
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
(Romans 10:17 KJV)
There are many ways it can be used.
However I was specifically talking about ONE of them.
And to make it clear I gave the definition I was using in my post.
The fact that you have some other definitions is utterly irrelevant.
It was the MEANING of the word, the concepts underlying it, that I was talking about.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow does a rape in Pakistan reflect on "all professing Muslims"? Why don't you tell us?
Were those acts perpetrated by Muslims on a Christian minority, if the answer is yes,
then the question is, how does this reflect on Islam, Islamic society and all professing
Muslims, its a valid topic
Originally posted by googlefudge"Free speech is not threatened by coming down heavily on hate speech."
No the comparison does not represent a threat.
Stating that a god/set of beliefs/ect are bad doesn't say anything about what to do about it.
[i]In the same way that improving humanities health and prosperity by improving the gene pool is
a good idea, doing it by the methods espoused and enacted by the Nazis and other 'eugenicists'
of the 20th c ...[text shortened]... ecessarily apply to other meanings of the word which is why I made the distinction.
Agreed. In the real world, there are distinctions. I don't quite understand robbie;s take on this. But I will defer to him on this little subthread, to see it it has traction.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou don't want a terrorist attack to occur on RHP do you? 😛
Did some namby pamby secular liberal like Finnegan alert it because it did not sit right
with his Islamophile sensibilities? What happened to free speech? We get enough hate
speech from the anti-christians here, your God is like Hitler etc etc, yet the posts
remain, so why remove Dasas post?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou have missed the point, which to be fair seems to be your modus operandi.
Were those acts perpetrated by Muslims on a Christian minority, if the answer is yes,
then the question is, how does this reflect on Islam, Islamic society and all professing
Muslims, its a valid topic, but to dismiss it on the basis of some kind of moral
sensibilities is an affront to intelligence and free speech. So you think its odd, so wha ...[text shortened]... ot about me, its about free speech and my perceived hypocrisy of those
who alerted that post.
how does this reflect on Islam, Islamic society and all professing Muslims, its a valid topic, but to dismiss it on the basis of some kind of moral sensibilities is an affront to intelligence and free speech.
It is a valid topic, and would be an interesting debate. But that wasn't the part of his OP that i found objectionable and flagged. In fact there was only one sentence of his OP which i found objectionable and that was the part where he called all Mulim's child rapists and paedophiles and something else which i've forgotten. That was the one specific line i thought broke the ToS and i flagged the post. Evidently i was correct.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieno it doesn't, that a pure nonsense, the fact that they happened in Pakistan is purely
"It was construed that the post was racist, Islam is not a race, it
could not therefore have been racist. "
ive already answered this, maybe you missed it - all the examples dasa give mentioned pakistani men. he was referring to crimes committed against christians living in pakistan. this constitutes as race hatred.
circumstantial, if he had really wanted to search he would find similar atrocities across
the Islamic world.
Originally posted by FMFit was not a single rape case Gerald, it was a catalogue of atrocities perpetrated by
How does a rape in Pakistan reflect on "all professing Muslims"? Why don't you tell us?
Muslims on a Christian minority and I did not say that it was reflective of all Muslims,
although it certainly seems reflective of a society which is supposed to be governed to
an extent by Islamic values, the did after all happen in an Islamic socialist republic, did
they not.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDasa claimed it was reflective of all Muslims. Did you not read his OP? Why are you making assertions about was in and wasn't in his OP if you didn't read it?
it was not a single rape case Gerald, it was a catalogue of atrocities perpetrated by Muslims on a Christian minority and I did not say that it was reflective of all Muslims
Originally posted by Proper Knoband the now obligatory ad hominem may be yours, its not about me, just sayin.
You have missed the point, which to be fair seems to be your modus operandi.how does this reflect on Islam, Islamic society and all professing Muslims, its a valid topic, but to dismiss it on the basis of some kind of moral sensibilities is an affront to intelligence and free speech.
It is a valid topic, and would be an inter ...[text shortened]... he one specific line i thought broke the ToS and i flagged the post. Evidently i was correct.
yes its hate speech without foundation and clearly breaks the TOS. I suppose if you
were so incensed by it rather than dismissing it as the words of madman, then ok. Its
a pity because it does raise some valid points as you say, oh well, another Dasa post
bites the dust, you would think he would learn.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIgnore.
it was not a single rape case Gerald, it was a catalogue of atrocities perpetrated by
Muslims on a Christian minority and I did not say that it was reflective of all Muslims,
although it certainly seems reflective of a society which is supposed to be governed to
an extent by Islamic values, the did after all happen in an Islamic socialist republic, did
they not.