Originally posted by robbie carrobie Were those acts perpetrated by Muslims on a Christian minority, if the answer is yes,
then the question is, how does this reflect on Islam, Islamic society and all professing
Muslims, its a valid topic
How does a rape in Pakistan reflect on "all professing Muslims"? Why don't you tell us?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie did dasa incite hatred against Islam in his post, all I remember was a series of cases
where Muslims had perpetrated acts of violence against others, in this case, a Christian
minority.
Originally posted by googlefudge No the comparison does not represent a threat.
Stating that a god/set of beliefs/ect are bad doesn't say anything about what to do about it.
[i]In the same way that improving humanities health and prosperity by improving the gene pool is
a good idea, doing it by the methods espoused and enacted by the Nazis and other 'eugenicists'
of the 20th c ...[text shortened]... ecessarily apply to other meanings of the word which is why I made the distinction.
"Free speech is not threatened by coming down heavily on hate speech."
Agreed. In the real world, there are distinctions. I don't quite understand robbie;s take on this. But I will defer to him on this little subthread, to see it it has traction.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Did some namby pamby secular liberal like Finnegan alert it because it did not sit right
with his Islamophile sensibilities? What happened to free speech? We get enough hate
speech from the anti-christians here, your God is like Hitler etc etc, yet the posts
remain, so why remove Dasas post?
You don't want a terrorist attack to occur on RHP do you? 😛
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Were those acts perpetrated by Muslims on a Christian minority, if the answer is yes,
then the question is, how does this reflect on Islam, Islamic society and all professing
Muslims, its a valid topic, but to dismiss it on the basis of some kind of moral
sensibilities is an affront to intelligence and free speech. So you think its odd, so wha ...[text shortened]... ot about me, its about free speech and my perceived hypocrisy of those
who alerted that post.
You have missed the point, which to be fair seems to be your modus operandi.
how does this reflect on Islam, Islamic society and all professing Muslims, its a valid topic, but to dismiss it on the basis of some kind of moral sensibilities is an affront to intelligence and free speech.
It is a valid topic, and would be an interesting debate. But that wasn't the part of his OP that i found objectionable and flagged. In fact there was only one sentence of his OP which i found objectionable and that was the part where he called all Mulim's child rapists and paedophiles and something else which i've forgotten. That was the one specific line i thought broke the ToS and i flagged the post. Evidently i was correct.
Originally posted by stellspalfie "It was construed that the post was racist, Islam is not a race, it
could not therefore have been racist. "
ive already answered this, maybe you missed it - all the examples dasa give mentioned pakistani men. he was referring to crimes committed against christians living in pakistan. this constitutes as race hatred.
no it doesn't, that a pure nonsense, the fact that they happened in Pakistan is purely
circumstantial, if he had really wanted to search he would find similar atrocities across
the Islamic world.
Originally posted by FMF How does a rape in Pakistan reflect on "all professing Muslims"? Why don't you tell us?
it was not a single rape case Gerald, it was a catalogue of atrocities perpetrated by
Muslims on a Christian minority and I did not say that it was reflective of all Muslims,
although it certainly seems reflective of a society which is supposed to be governed to
an extent by Islamic values, the did after all happen in an Islamic socialist republic, did
they not.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie it was not a single rape case Gerald, it was a catalogue of atrocities perpetrated by Muslims on a Christian minority and I did not say that it was reflective of all Muslims
Dasa claimed it was reflective of all Muslims. Did you not read his OP? Why are you making assertions about was in and wasn't in his OP if you didn't read it?
Originally posted by Proper Knob You have missed the point, which to be fair seems to be your modus operandi.
how does this reflect on Islam, Islamic society and all professing Muslims, its a valid topic, but to dismiss it on the basis of some kind of moral sensibilities is an affront to intelligence and free speech.
It is a valid topic, and would be an inter ...[text shortened]... he one specific line i thought broke the ToS and i flagged the post. Evidently i was correct.
and the now obligatory ad hominem may be yours, its not about me, just sayin.
yes its hate speech without foundation and clearly breaks the TOS. I suppose if you
were so incensed by it rather than dismissing it as the words of madman, then ok. Its
a pity because it does raise some valid points as you say, oh well, another Dasa post
bites the dust, you would think he would learn.
Originally posted by FMF Dasa claimed it was reflective of all Muslims. Did you not read his OP? Why are you making assertions about was in and wasn't in his OP if you didn't read it?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie it was not a single rape case Gerald, it was a catalogue of atrocities perpetrated by
Muslims on a Christian minority and I did not say that it was reflective of all Muslims,
although it certainly seems reflective of a society which is supposed to be governed to
an extent by Islamic values, the did after all happen in an Islamic socialist republic, did
they not.
What happened to the Dasa thread?
23 Oct '12 01:00
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