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    23 Jun '05 19:26
    Originally posted by bbarr
    Please refer to my defense of premise (2) found in that thread.
    Would you be so kind as to sum it up for me or at least provide a link to that specific thread page.
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    23 Jun '05 19:29
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    I doubt a piece of trash like you will be allowed anywhere near anything like "Heaven". At best you'll share a cubicle with such "born-again Christians" as Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmner.
    Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    I think "a piece of trash" is even worse than "Thou fool".
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    23 Jun '05 19:30
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Anything. There are an infinite number of possibilities.
    Would you please name a few other possibilities?
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    23 Jun '05 19:38
    Originally posted by LemonJello
    i really don't understand why you keep making this fallacious argument; it only makes you look like an idiot.

    first of all, the argument is blatantly false: if your arbitrary god turns out to be an illusion, then why can't somebody else's 'arbitrary' god turn out to be real? his god will damn you for eternity to some alternate hell for being a ' ...[text shortened]... n how you can make the above argument (that you keep making) and not look like a complete idiot.
    [/b]his god will damn you for eternity to some alternate hell for being a 'non-believer'.[/b]

    Would you please quote the words any other God that are written down which damn anybody to an eternity in hell fire.
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    23 Jun '05 19:391 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    his god will damn you for eternity to some alternate hell for being a 'non-believer'.[/b]

    Would you please quote the words any other God that are written down which damn anybody to an eternity in hell fire.
    [/b]
    i see you have no intention of actually answering the relevant questions at hand. i expected no more.

    as described before, this other god is arbitrary. if you want, i'll make up one now and scribble the damning words down on my lunch napkin.
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    23 Jun '05 19:49
    Originally posted by LemonJello
    i see you have no intention of actually answering the relevant questions at hand. i expected no more.

    as described before, this other god is arbitrary. if you want, i'll make up one now and scribble the damning words down on my lunch napkin.
    I would like you to quote the words of any other "god" of any other religion that claims to damn people to an eternity in hell fire.
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    23 Jun '05 19:521 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I would like you to quote the words of any other "god" of any other religion that claims to damn people to an eternity in hell fire.
    the validity of your argument does not rest on any formal establishment of religion. the god i just thought up and scribbled on my napkin is no less or more arbitrary than your own.

    could you try staying on track and answering the actual question i posed earlier? maybe if you answer my question, i'll be more apt to answer yours.
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    23 Jun '05 19:58
    Originally posted by LemonJello
    the validity of your argument does not rest on any formal establishment of religion. the god i just thought up and scribbled on my napkin is no less or more arbitrary than your own.

    could you try staying on track and answering the actual question i posed earlier? maybe if you answer my question, i'll be more apt to answer yours.
    the validity of your argument does not rest on any formal establishment of religion. the god i just thought up and scribbled on my napkin is no less or more arbitrary than your own.

    I disagree here. My God is the God of the Bible. Your napkin cannot be compared to the Bible. That is why I say that you might be able to compare it maybe to the Koran or some other religious book.
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    23 Jun '05 20:00
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    [b]the validity of your argument does not rest on any formal establishment of religion. the god i just thought up and scribbled on my napkin is no less or more arbitrary than your own.

    I disagree here. My God is the God of the Bible. Your napkin cannot be compared to the Bible. That is why I say that you might be able to compare it maybe to the Koran or some other religious book. [/b]
    oh i see. so if a bunch of people get together and draw a god on a napkin that means he is valid. but if one person draws a god on a napkin, that is just art.

    you just can't see how arbitrary your beliefs really are.
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    23 Jun '05 20:15
    Originally posted by LemonJello
    oh i see. so if a bunch of people get together and draw a god on a napkin that means he is valid. but if one person draws a god on a napkin, that is just art.

    you just can't see how arbitrary your beliefs really are.
    I suggest you read the book WHY I BELIEVE by Dr. James Kennedy. You will hopefully realise that the Bible is not simply a bunch of people getting together to draw on a napkin.
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    23 Jun '05 20:26
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I suggest you read the book WHY I BELIEVE by Dr. James Kennedy. You will hopefully realise that the Bible is not simply a bunch of people getting together to draw on a napkin.
    I suggest you read the book WHY I BELIEVE by Dr. James Kennedy.

    noted.

    You will hopefully realise that the Bible is not simply a bunch of people getting together to draw on a napkin.

    and maybe someday you will realize that my beliefs are not simply drawings on napkins either. and someday maybe you will be able to think for yourself and you will actually inspect with a critical eye the dogma you shovel around.
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    23 Jun '05 20:28
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    I think "a piece of trash" is even worse than "Thou fool".
    Maybe it is but they are not mutually exclusive. I don't worry toooooooo much about hellfire; since the God of the OT is almost certainly a figment of the ancient Israelites' fertile imagination, I don't much worry about the punishments in that book anymore than I worry what Zeus or Baal might do to me. If there is a God, I seriously doubt he's the irrational, petty, jealous one you worship, so I figure he'll know that ignorant bigots like RBHILL are a piece of trash and the most I'll get from Him for saying so is a High-Five and an ice cold Miller High Lite.
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    23 Jun '05 20:30
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    ...the most I'll get from Him for saying so is a High-Five and an ice cold Miller High Lite.
    Right on.
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    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Maybe it is but they are not mutually exclusive. I don't worry toooooooo much about hellfire; since the God of the OT is almost certainly a figment of the ancient Israelites' fertile imagination, I don't much worry about the punishments in that book anymore than I worry what Zeus or Baal might do to me. If there is a God, I seriously doubt he's ...[text shortened]... h and the most I'll get from Him for saying so is a High-Five and an ice cold Miller High Lite.
    AMEN BROTHA ! reced !
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    24 Jun '05 01:30
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Would you please name a few other possibilities?
    I might go to tremendous bliss that only agnostic atheists who lived in Los Angeles go to. It would last exactly 293.12 billion years, and then I'd be a ghost that no one could perceive.

    I might reincarnate as a frog.

    I might become a god and make my own universe and make up my own moral rules for my creations to obey.

    I might reincarnate as a porn star's penis.
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