@bigdoggproblem saidClearly you see through Rajk's B.S.
No. BS. I don't believe it.
Your continued presence here can only be explained by a sincere desire to, but equally sincere, utter failure to, manifest the doctrines of "Jesus" in your own existence.
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@Rajk999
@bigdoggproblem said
"What is Rajk lacking?"
"I would not say it, except, for so many pages, no one else has.
Rajk is lacking a genuine concern for other people stuggling to make sense of their Spirituality."
"You are right. No concern whatsoever."
Which is a clear sign you're a fraud.
@secondson saidBecause Jesus Christ said no such thing.
Why do you refuse to accept that eternal life is a free gift of God's grace?
You think your church doctrine is the doctrine of Christ.
I bet you can find nowhere that Paul said
eternal life is a free gift of God's grace?
@rajk999 saidWhat church doctrine are you referring to when you make claims we are not following the Word of God and instead are replacing what the scriptures say with church doctrine? Do you believe we must earn our salvation? You think you can impress God so that He is obligated to let you into His Kingdom? No one is going to be able to bost about salvation it is through God, for the glory of God.
Because Jesus Christ said no such thing.
You think your church doctrine is the doctrine of Christ.
I bet you can find nowhere that Paul said
eternal life is a free gift of God's grace?
Romans 5:15
But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
John 4:10
Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.”
John 3
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”
@kellyjay saidDoes all this stuff you have quoted mean that Jesus' crucifixion - in your view - negated any obligation on the part of his followers to obey his commandments and do good works?
What church doctrine are you referring to when you make claims we are not following the Word of God and instead are replacing what the scriptures say with church doctrine? Do you believe we must earn our salvation? You think you can impress God so that He is obligated to let you into His Kingdom? No one is going to be able to bost about salvation it is through God, for the g ...[text shortened]... rue comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”
@kellyjay saidThe doctrine of the Devil.
What church doctrine are you referring to when you make claims we are not following the Word of God and instead are replacing what the scriptures say with church doctrine? Do you believe we must earn our salvation? You think you can impress God so that He is obligated to let you into His Kingdom? No one is going to be able to bost about salvation it is through God, for the g ...[text shortened]... rue comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”
@fmf saidYou asked that about 10 times and he is not going to answer. The answer is that Jesus's sacrifice does not remove the responsibility and the requirement to do good works and to live righteously. Following the commandments still leads to eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Failure to follow the commandments leads to damnation.
Does all this stuff you have quoted mean that Jesus' crucifixion - in your view - negated any obligation on the part of his followers to obey his commandments and do good works?
Rajk usually (quite correctly) points out that we cannot tell which people on this forum actually do good works in their real lives.
The one thing we CAN see is the charity (or lack thereof) with which one treats fellow forum posters.
I have a hard time believing that someone who can rarely give a compliment to their fellow forum debaters is able to give say, food to the hungry. I could be wrong. But I think it's not likely.
@rajk999 saidNo one has said that Jesus' sacrifice means we lose our responsibility to do good works and follow Christ, that is purely your imagination it isn't based upon anything anyone actually has said. We are to live crucified lives, giving them up to God for His use, to do good works in Christ our living hope. A living hope, not one trusting in our efforts to do enough good works in the belief He will someday forgives us but trusting in His forgiveness now knowing He accepts us here with the gift of His salvation.
You asked that about 10 times and he is not going to answer. The answer is that Jesus's sacrifice does not remove the responsibility and the requirement to do good works and to live righteously. Following the commandments still leads to eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Failure to follow the commandments leads to damnation.
@bigdoggproblem saidThe one thing we CAN see is the charity (or lack thereof) with which one treats fellow forum posters.
Rajk usually (quite correctly) points out that we cannot tell which people on this forum actually do good works in their real lives.
The one thing we CAN see is the charity (or lack thereof) with which one treats fellow forum posters.
I have a hard time believing that someone who can rarely give a compliment to their fellow forum debaters is able to give say, food to the hungry. I could be wrong. But I think it's not likely.
I have a hard time believing that someone who can rarely give a compliment to their fellow forum debaters is able to give say, food to the hungry. I could be wrong. But I think it's not likely.
Just your gut feel? Or can you make a reasonable case for it?
@bigdoggproblem saidThis one made me laugh..... but whatever you say BDP.
Rajk usually (quite correctly) points out that we cannot tell which people on this forum actually do good works in their real lives.
The one thing we CAN see is the charity (or lack thereof) with which one treats fellow forum posters.
I have a hard time believing that someone who can rarely give a compliment to their fellow forum debaters is able to give say, food to the hungry. I could be wrong. But I think it's not likely.