What other hope is there?

Originally posted by @rajk999
Good luck to you. .. hope you figure it out.

It is not my problem to figure it out by luck.

Since I just take the pronouncement of the Bible as it says it, I take the reigning King during the millennium to be the Son and to be Jehovah God.

I believe in the Trinity - the three-oneness of God.
So I just say "Amen" to the Scripture -

The Son's throne is forever and ever.
Jehovah is the King reigning forever and ever.
The Son delivers up the kingdom to God His Father that God may be all in all.

I don't need luck.
I only need to believe what the word of God states.

Originally posted by @sonship
It is not my problem to figure it out by luck.

Since I just take the pronouncement of the Bible as it says it, I take the reigning King during the millennium to be the Son and to be Jehovah God.

I believe in the Trinity - the three-oneness of God.
So I just say [b]"Amen" to the Scripture -

The Son's throne is forever and ever.
Jehovah is t ...[text shortened]... may be all in all.

I don't need luck.
I only need to believe what the word of God states.[/b]

Ok you said that already, a few times in fact.

Are you going to ask me to repeat the passage by Paul .. maybe sometime next week?

Clearly you do have a problem.

Originally posted by @rajk999
I have already answered that. Here is my original reply. My opinion on what Paul means here has not changed.

[i][b]Christ will reign until he has put all enemies under his feet.

This one little sentence in the Bible tells several things:
1. During the entire reign of Christ, he will have opposition and enemies
2. Christ reign is not permanent ...[text shortened]... truly believing in Christ with your heart and not just with your mouth as you constantly preach.[/b]

Maybe you can ask others in this forum what is their interpretation of this passage by Paul. The language is simple and straightforward. I cannot explain it further.

This language is also very simple:
Psalm 10:16

"Jehovah is King forever and ever"

I believe that as Jesus Christ reigns on His throne in the millennium "Jehovah is King forever and ever"

There is no need for Jehovah to BECOME King at the end of the millennium.

The language is also very simple that it is the King, Jehovah Who is reigning in the millennium.
Zechariah 14:17

"And whichever of the families of the earth does not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, Jehovah of hosts, upon them there will be no rain."

I also may not be able to fully explain. But apparently the Son reigning is Jehovah the King reigning, isn't it?

Inwardly, I can detect no separation between the Father and the Son within me.

So First Corinthians 15:28 cannot be a evidence that I should disbelieve Zechariah 14:17 or Hebrews 1:8.

I reserve the right to believe both and all the relevant biblical passages.

It is obvious to me that this matter is bothering you for you to raise it in another unrelated thread.

Just take it then in the same way that in practically every thread YOU participate in where I make a comment, you are sure to write something about "the commandments of Christ".

You too are sure to slip in there "the commandments of Christ" regardless of what the topic is.

This is not the first time you have done this. Several of your core doctrines are in error and is based on the flawed interpretation of one man.

You have no one to blame for the Bible stating both Hebrews 1:8 and Psalm 10:16 and Zechariah 14:17 but its Author - God.

And that is the same Holy Spirit Who inspired Paul to write First Corinthians 15 ... all of it. You cannot blame those passages on my favorite Bible teachers.

Maybe it is time for you to ask God to help you to see that light that comes from truly believing in Christ with your heart and not just with your mouth as you constantly preach.

I fully agree that I should depend upon God to enlighten me about Scripture. What does that have to do with receiving help sometimes through faithful servants of His?

Your strawman arguments march along four by four.
But it doesn't conceal the fact that you have no effective rebuttal to the truth that Christ is the Son with a throne which is not temporary but "forever and ever" (Heb. 1:8)

Adding even more strawman arguments won't make this disappear.

"But of the Son, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever ..."

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Can you look over the last five years of my posts and show me one in which I taught that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were separated?

To utter this great mystery of God's being, I have said that the three of the Triune God are distinct but not separated.

For example;

"And the Lord is the Spirit." ( 2 Cor. 3:17)

For example:

" ... He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how is it that you say, Show us the Father?" (John 14:9b)

-Removed-

A new culture sometimes calls for a new language to describe its experiences.

The life of the new creation in Christ is a new culture. The dictionaries of the world may not always be able to capture the meaning of words related to the divine.

The EKKLESIA is the called out assembly. She experiences the Christ is God and the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God. You cannot expect the dictionaries of the worldly to always be able to define biblical revelation.

Afterall, there are things which even the most educated linguistically do not experience.

Seeing the distinct and separate might be synonyms to the worldly I can see. But to those in the experience of Romans 8:9-11 we are practically forced by this new supernatural culture, to fine tune words to express the divine.

"Now the Lord is the Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom."

How else can we explain this? It is hard.
We might say that the Lord and the Spirit are distinct.
But One is the Other - not separated.

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In the experience of the Christians we sometimes realize that typical human utterance is not adaquate. In the case of the three-one God we seemed forced to stretch the human language.

Didn't the Apostle Paul say on occasion that he spoke according to man, implying that the mysteries were deeper than typical human language could capture?

" I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh." (Rom. 6:19)

What do you mean Paul?
What do you mean that you now speak to us "in human terms"?

The new culture of the Christian experience, the experience of the "called out ones" is sometimes very mysterious. We are hard pressed to utter some truths in the typical words of humans.

The three of the Trinity are distinct, but each One lives within the Other - coinherance. Where any one is the Other two are there also. Yet there is One God. Yet the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct.